Please do not feed the trolls.
-Kip
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, Danial Thom wrote:
>
>
> --- Alexander Leidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Quoting Dan Lukes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (from Thu, 12
> > Oct 2006 09:43:20 +0200):
> >
> > [moved from security@ to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > The main problem is - 6.x is still not
> > competitive replacement for
> > > 4.x. I'm NOT speaking about old unsupported
> > hardware - I speaked about
> > > performance in some situation and believe in
> > it's stability.
> >
> > You can't be sure that a committer has the
> > resources to setup an
> > environment where he is able to reproduce your
> > performance problems.
> > You on the other hand have hands-on experience
> > with the performance
> > problem. If you are able to setup a -current
> > system (because there are
> > changes which may affect performance already,
> > and it is the place
> > where the nuw stuff will be developt) which
> > exposes the bad behavior,
> > you could make yourself familiar with the pmc
> > framework
> > (http://wiki.freebsd.org/PmcTools, I'm sure
> > jkoshy@ will help if you
> > have questions) and point out the bottlenecks
> > on current@ and/or
> > performance@ (something similar happened for
> > MySQL, and now we have a
> > webpage in the wiki about it). Without such
> > reports, we can't handle
> > the issue.
> >
> > Further discussion about this should happen in
> > performance@ or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Bye,
> > Alexander.
> >
>
> Maybe its just time for the entire FreeBSD team
> to come out of its world of delusion and come to
> terms with what every real-life user of FreeBSD
> knows: In how ever many years of development,
> there is still no good reason to use anything
> other than FreeBSD 4.x except that 4.x doesn't
> support a lot of newer harder. There is no
> performance advantage in real world applications
> with multiple processors, and the performance is
> far worse with 1 processor.
>
> The right thing to do is to port the SATA support
> and new NIC support back to 4.x and support both.
> 4.x is far superior on a Uniprocessor system and
> FreeBSD-5+ may be an entire re-write away from
> ever being any good at MP. Come to terms with it,
> PLEASE, because it is the case and saying
> otherwise won't change it.
>
> My prediction is that a year from now we'll all
> be using DragonflyBSD and you guys will be
> looking for a new bunch of beta-test guinea pigs.
>
> DT
>
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