On 11 Mar 2022, at 18:55, Michael Gmelin wrote:
>> On 12. Mar 2022, at 01:21, Kristof Provost <k...@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 11 Mar 2022, at 17:44, Johan Hendriks wrote:
>>>> On 09/03/2022 20:55, Johan Hendriks wrote:
>>>> The problem:
>>>> I have a FreeBSD 14 machine and a FreeBSD 13-stable machine, both running 
>>>> the same jails just to test the workings.
>>>>
>>>> The jails that are running are a salt master, a haproxy  jail, 2 
>>>> webservers, 2 varnish servers, 2 php jails one for php8.0 and one with 
>>>> 8.1. All the jails are connected to bridge0 and all the jails use vnet.
>>>>
>>>> I believe this worked on an older 14-HEAD machine, but i did not do a lot 
>>>> with it back then, and when i started testing again and after updating the 
>>>> OS i noticed that one of the varnish jails lost it's network connection 
>>>> after running for a few hours. I thought it was just something on HEAD so 
>>>> never really looked at it. But later on when i start using the jails again 
>>>> and testing a test wordpress site i noticed that with a simple load test 
>>>> my haproxy jail within one minute looses it's network connection. I see 
>>>> nothing in the logs, on the host and on the jail.
>>>> From the jail i can not ping the other jails or the IP adres of the 
>>>> bridge. I can however ping the jails own IP adres. From the host i can 
>>>> also not ping the haproxy jail IP adres. If i start a tcpdump on the 
>>>> epaira interface from the haproxy jail i do see the packets arrive but not 
>>>> in the jail.
>>>>
>>>> I used ZFS to send all the jails to a 13-STABLE machine and copied over 
>>>> the jail.conf file as well as the pf.conf file and i saw the same behavior.
>>>>
>>>> Then i tried to use 13.0-RELEASE-p7 and on that machine i do not see this 
>>>> happening. There i can stress test the machine for 10 minutes without a 
>>>> problem but on 14-HEAD and 13-STABLE within a minute the jail's network 
>>>> connection fails and only a restart of the jail brings it back online to 
>>>> exhibit the same behavior if i start a simple load test which it should 
>>>> handle nicely.
>>>>
>>>> One of the jail hosts is running under VMWARE and the other is running 
>>>> under Ubuntu with KVM. The 13.0-RELEASE-p7 jail host is running under 
>>>> Ubuntu with KVM
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your time.
>>>> regards
>>>> Johan
>>>>
>>> I did some bisecting and the latest commit that works on FreeBSD 13-Stable 
>>> is 009a56b2e
>>> Then the commit 2e0bee4c7  if_epair: implement fanout and above is showing 
>>> the symptoms described above.
>>>
>> Interestingly I cannot reproduce stalls in simple epair setups.
>> It would be useful if you could reduce the setup with the problem into a 
>> minimal configuration so we can figure out what other factors are involved.
>
> If there are clear instructions on how to reproduce, I’m happy to help 
> experimenting (I’m relying heavily on epair at this point).
>
> @Kristof: Did you try on bare metal or on vms?
>
Both.

Kristof

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