On 12.11.2012 20:15, Karim wrote:
Hi all,

I have been following the current discussions on igb tx/rx locking with great 
interest and I though
I would point out (as it was before pointed out in kern/138392) that any driver 
setting if_start to
NULL and using if_transmit (multi-queue or not) will effectively break ALTQ.

The reason for this can be found in tbr_timeout() in altq_subr.c where the 
token bucket regulator
goes through all ALTQ registered interface and tries to 'kick' them into 
sending through if_start().

tbr_timeout() :

...

         for (ifp = TAILQ_FIRST(&V_ifnet); ifp;
             ifp = TAILQ_NEXT(ifp, if_list)) {
             /* read from if_snd unlocked */
             if (!TBR_IS_ENABLED(&ifp->if_snd))
                 continue;
             active++;
             if (!IFQ_IS_EMPTY(&ifp->if_snd) &&
                 ifp->if_start != NULL)                     /* if_start is NULL 
if if_transmit is
used in em/igb driver */
                 (*ifp->if_start)(ifp);
         }

...

As you can see if_start is NULL on those new multi-queue enabled drivers which 
has for net effect to
'break' ALTQ's token bucket regulator.

I am writing this because I am interested in your comments on how this can be 
fixed properly looking
forward. The whole range of suggestions; from 'don't compile with EM_MULTIQUEUE 
defined' to 'here is
how you can make ALTQ use drbr' will help.

This whole area needs some serious re-consideration for 10.0.
Even without the if_start issue ALTQ is somewhat broken because
the DMA rings nowadays are just too deep.

See this recent message to this list for some thoughts:
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2012-November/033780.html

On top of refining the stack/driver boundary I'm thinking of a
dedicated ethernet layer to consolidate all the ethernet extensions,
have a single place to go and to prevent the drivers from re-inventing
the wheel all over every time.

I'm working towards it and leaning into various drivers while trying
to bring in the hybrid interrupt/polling mode with life-lock prevention.

It'll take a few weeks until I'm ready to show a stack/ethernet/driver
prototype for discussion.  Parts may surface earlier in my tcp_workqueue
svn branch.

--
Andre

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