On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Bruce M. Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ed Schouten wrote: >>>> >>>> With the word `should' I meant that it would still be possible to >>>> implement multiple line disciplines with the mpsafetty code. But I >>>> really think line disciplines should go. >>>> >>> >>> No, don't bother. Remove the entire "abstraction" of linedisciplines. >>> >> >> Your wish is my command. >> > > Like Julian and Robert said, please don't break Netgraph. > > It still needs to hook into tty at a very low level; and the components such > as Bluetooth which can use ttys for low level stream processing, are built > on Netgraph. > > Both SLIP and PPP can be built using Netgraph. > > Other than that, line disciplines can go away.
I think line disciplines should go away as such. It would be nice to have a place to hook into (even linux has this), but the line discipline concept is 30 years stale. IMHO, priority #1 is give ttys the first class treatment they need, then priority #2 is to put in some low level hooks for ng_tty or whatever. It would be hard to come up with a more inconvenient interface than we have now. As an example.. look at the CAN_BYPASS_L_RINT stuff. If we had a way to pass a block of characters upstream instead of a single character at a time, then we could build this magic into the input routines instead of the device drivers. The bypass is still useful because it saves considerable cycles for raw tty modes, eg: userland ppp, zmodem upload/downloads etc etc. But the logic for it shouldn't have to be scattered all over the tree due to poor line discipline APIs. -- Peter Wemm - [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell _______________________________________________ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
