>>>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Mike Silbersack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Tom Pavel wrote:
> 
> > Here is a trace to illustrate:
> >
> > 09:05:35.956066 AA.80 > BB.61390: . 3568529946:3568531406(1460) ack 2597111
> 261 win 4380 (DF)
> > 09:05:36.961787 AA.80 > BB.61390: . 3568529946:3568531406(1460) ack 2597111
> 261 win 4380 (DF)
> > 09:05:38.973207 AA.80 > BB.61390: . 3568529946:3568531406(1460) ack 2597111
> 261 win 4380 (DF)
> 
> Is this a real trace?  It looks highly irregular to me.  I don't see why
> BB isn't RSTing each packet, and AA looks to be retransmitting way too
> quickly.

Yes, this is a real trace.  And it is not a single fluke BB host
either.  If you look at enough web traces, you will eventually find
such examples (it is pretty rare, though).  Other OSes I was able to
test show the same behavior as AA.  I included my theories about the
cause for BB's behavior (stateful firewall or modem hangup), but I
really have no info about that.

I'm not sure why you say the retrans are too quick.  The 2 above are 1
sec and 2 sec, respectively.  The rest continue exponentially.


> > In any event, though, it seems to me relatively harmless to have AA
> > accept seqnums "slightly" to the left of its current advertised window
> > (say last_ack_sent - rcv_wnd).  This would save a bunch of needless
> > retransmits and it would clean up the control block much sooner than
> > letting AA timeout on retransmitting.
> >
> > What collective wisdom do folks have about this?
> 
> I'm not sure doubling the "RST window" is a good idea.  With window sizes
> increasing as they are, that could become a significant issue as time goes
> on.  How about one MSS worth of window or something similar?

That sounds pretty reasonable.  All of the traces I have noticed came
with an "early" FIN from the web client, so even 1 byte would have
been enough in those cases.  One MSS sounds like a good compromise.


Tom Pavel

Network Physics
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