Actually, in your documentation you mention that its broken for the 
situation where the FreeBSD box acts as a gateway. In my case, its broken 
right from the FreeBSD box. But the same machine connected with Windows 98 
does not have the problem.

         ---Mike



At 04:18 PM 6/18/2002 -0700, Renaud Waldura wrote:
>Section 6.3 of the following document describes this issue in detail and may
>help you solve it.
>
>http://renaud.waldura.com/doc/freebsd/pppoe/
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tom Samplonius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Mike Tancsa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:09 PM
>Subject: Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)
>
>
> >
> >   Well, if you need to find the MTU, the ppp logs should tell you what the
> > remote end is telling you to use.
> >
> >   Usually, if you are having a MTU problem, it relates to fragmentation,
> > MTU detection and ICMP filters.  FreeBSD uses MTU detection by default.
> > However, MTU detection requires that ICMP "can't fragment" messages be
> > received, and some broken sites filter all ICMP.  I know that the Redback
> > has an "ignore don't fragment" feature.  If this is enabled, it will
> > fragment packets, it would normally throw away.  This feature will break
> > MTU detection too, but at least the end user won't notice, and packets
> > will flow.
> >
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Mike Tancsa wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The DSL whole supplier we use (Bell Canada) has been turfing their
>Redback
> > > SMSes and moving to an ERX from unisphere networks.
> > >
> > > With the Redback, all was great... I had a FreeBSD box acting as a NAT
> > > gateway for a number of Windows boxes and all was great.  Then, the
> > > customer got moved over to one of these ERXes and there is now some
>strange
> > > MTU problem.  Couple of things.  Supposedly the default MTU on the ERX
>is
> > > 1472 (or 1452) depending on who you talk to and not 1492.
> > >
> > > e.g. when doing a fetch to
> > >  >> lynx2.8.4rel.1.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in
>/usr/ports/distfiles/.
> > >  >> Attempting to fetch from http://lynx.isc.org/current/.
> > > Receiving lynx2.8.4rel.1.tar.bz2 (1940531 bytes): 0%^C
> > > 16682 bytes transferred in 89.5 seconds (186.41 Bps)
> > > fetch: transfer interrupted
> > >
> > > Notice the speed... Its totally brutal. yet, a transfer from just a few
> > > hops away is fine.
> > >
> > > My question is, how can I track this problem down ?  There seems to be
>some
> > > strange interaction with FreeBSD because if I put a Windows box on the
> > > other end, it does not suffer from this same problem. I can easily
>repeat
> > > the problem, but the question is, how can I track down the issue and
>then
> > > explain it to my telco.

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