At 21:19 19-2-2002 +0100, Marcel de Vries wrote:
>I use mpd to setup a PPTP (gre encapsulation) connection between interface 
>ep0 (public) and my Alcatel ADSL modem.
>Don't ask me why but it's the concept of a BIG telecom company we all love 
>to hate in the Netherlands. KPN TELECOM.
>
>And most of the people use mpd in the Netherlands and find it a 
>comfortable and more stable solution I think.

Yeah, I use it too.

>Well I guess mxstream ADSL works fine in most cases. These other paid OS 
>types like w9x/me, winnt, win2k/XP all can handle PPTP VPN connections 
>only with the correct DUN version for the early win versions that is. And 
>almost every ordinary household who owns a computer is running one of the 
>disgusting platforms mentioned above. And I think it have to work great in 
>combination with ADSL or else they could flush there concept down the 
>drains. Because mxstream wants to attract and provide internet for this sector.
>
>There where a lot problems in the beginning of mxstream but they changed 
>there design to make it more useful for a internet user.

Such as using 10.0.0.0/8 and using NAT! =(  Thanks to a few of the internet 
providers that use MxStream to do ADSL that has been pushed out. (To show 
you how messed up KPN is at times)

>So as most of the BSD community who are in lucky circumstances to own a 
>ADSL connection would love to use FreeBSD as a router for the rest of the 
>network.
>
>I know more people are dealing with packet loss and losing there 
>connection in use with mxstream ADSL. People that really use there 
>internet extensive that is ;-)

OK so I'm not the only one experiencing this from time to time.

I have not seen any bufferspace messages however, am I correct that you 
don't get that anymore since switching to natd?

I haven't had too much time to find out what's going on, but from time to 
time my connection seems to freeze up, and indeed when I look in top, natd 
is eating a large chunk of the CPU time.  But when I look in trafshow I see 
something very strange. One connection has an enormous outbound rate. It 
would be trying to push a few megabytes per second down the 256Kbit 
upstream that I have (for other MxStream users, yes I have the Fast variant 
and I'm loving it!). There must be some sort of loop somewhere that's 
resending the same packet over and over again, as a lot of the times my 
windows box will be the one responsible for the connection and it's not 
pumping that data over my internal LAN.

Any natd/mpd/netgraph guru's have any hints about where to start 
looking/how to debug this? If I'm not the only one having this problem I'd 
like to get this out of the way ASAP.

         Doc


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