At 12:54 PM 8/28/01 -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote:
><<On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 01:05:32 -0400, Mike Tancsa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > Can anyone tell me why the VLAN code might be causing my switches (ciscos)
> > to see a lot of runt frames when the interface is in 802.1q trunking 
> mode ?
>
>It's possible that the Cisco is (bogusly, IMHO) trying to enforce the
>Ethernet minimum frame length on the *de*capsulated frames.  If you
>send a frame that's less than 60 octets long, it gets encapsulated
>(adding another four octets) and then padded by the interface up to 64
>octets.  After the encapsulation is removed by the receiver, the frame
>appears to only be 60 octets long.
>
>I'd call it a Cisco bug.  The minimum frame length in Ethernet arises
>from the electrical parameters of the original CSMA/CD Ethernet
>design; what matters is the number of clocks the transmitter is
>active, not the length of the payload.

If its a Cisco bug, would it not manifest it self consistently ?  On other 
ports, I have a 3620 and another catalyst both in 802.1q trunking mode, but 
I dont see any runt frames there.

Also, who is the VLAN maintainer these days ?  I ran into a panic that I 
thought was netgraph related, but Archie Cobbs thinks it might be in the 
VLAN code. I filed a PR on the issue

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30149

I saved the debug kernel as well as the core dump in case its needed, but 
the problem is easy enough to repeat.

         ---Mike


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