Gunther Schadow wrote:
> However, I understand that ALTQ works in the data link layer at
> the interface to the NIC. IPsec, however, works above that layer,
> even before the IPFILTER rules (on outgoing packets.) So, we have
> the following "pipe"
> 
>    IPSEC -----> IPFILTER -------> ALTQ

You should really look into using IPIP tunnels together with IPsec
transport mode. In that case, your packets loop through IP outbound
processing twice, allowing you to hook into "IP hacks" (ALTQ, ipfw,
ipfilter, etc.) at both the virtual network layer as well as the
physical network layer. If (and I'm not sure this is supported, but it's
easy to add) gif devices are ALTQified, you could apply ALTQ at the
virtual network level, before IPsec processing kicks in at the physical
network.

(For our X-Bone overlays, we do Dummynet processing for the virtual
network to simulate delays losses in the VPN; and apply IPsec after
tunneling).

Lars
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