On 15 Mar 2016, at 08:34, Miroslav Lachman <000.f...@quip.cz> wrote:
> 
> Mark Felder wrote on 03/14/2016 22:07:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016, at 11:42, James Gritton wrote:
>>>> On 2016-03-12 04:05, Simon wrote:
>>>> The shm_open()(2) function changed since FreeBSD 7.0: the SHM objects
>>>> path are now uncorrelated from the physical file system to become just
>>>> abstract objects. Probably due to this, the jail system do not provide
>>>> any form of filtering regarding shared memory created using this
>>>> function. Therefore:
>>>> 
>>>> - Anyone can create unauthorized communication channels between jails,
>>>> - Users with enough privileges in any jail can access and modify any
>>>> SHM objects system-wide, ie. shared memory objects created in any
>>>> other jail and in the host system.
>>>> 
>>>> I've seen a few claims that SHM objects were being handled differently
>>>> whether they were created inside or outside a jail. However, I tested
>>>> on FreeBSD 10.1 and 9.3 but found no evidence of this: both version
>>>> were affected by the same issue.
>>>> 
>>>> A reference of such claim:
>>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports-bugs/2015-July/312665.html
>>>> 
>>>> My initial post on FreeBSD forum discussing the issue with more
>>>> details: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/55468/
>>>> 
>>>> Currently, there does not seem to be any way to prevent this.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm therefore wondering if there are any concrete plans to change this
>>>> situation in future FreeBSD versions? Be able to block the currently
>>>> free inter-jail SHM-based communication seems a minimum, however such
>>>> setting would also most likely prevent SHM-based application to work.
>>>> 
>>>> Using file based SHM objects in jails seemed a good ideas but it does
>>>> not seem implemented this way, I don't know why. Is this planned, or
>>>> are there any greater plans ongoing also involving IPC's similar
>>>> issue?
>>> 
>>> There are no concrete plans I'm aware of, but it's definitely a thing
>>> that should be done.  How about filing a bug report for it?  You've
>>> already got a good write-up of the situation.
>> 
>> Both this and SYSV IPC jail support[1] are badly needed.
>> 
>> [1] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=48471
> 
> Yes, it is very sad that original patch was not commited, nor commented or 
> improved by core developers for long 13 years. I am not 100% sure but I thing 
> there was some patch from PJD for SysV IPC too. There were EclipseBSD with 
> resource limits in times of FreeBSD 3.4 and there is FreeVPS for 6.x with 
> virtualized IPC...
> 
> So I really hope SysV IPC aware jails will become reality soon.
> 
> Miroslav Lachman

Do we have a feeling if this only a funding problem or is it an enthusiasm 
problem?

- Mark


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