On Sun, 25 Sep 2005, Robert Watson wrote:

>
> On Fri, 23 Sep 2005, Jason Carroll wrote:
> 5B
> > There seem to be 2 types of crashes we see with pretty different stack
> > traces.  What I'll call a type 1 crash, I believe, is often caused by
> > one of the triggers I mention above.  A type 2 crash appears to happen
> > spontaneously after the machine has been running for a while.
> >
> > I poked around using kgdb in a core file from a type 2 crash, and it
> > appeared the system hung closing sockets (specifically cleaning up
> > multicast state i think) while cleaning up one of our multicast
> > applications (note the trace through sys_exit).  There's no reason this
> > application should have been exiting unless it encountered some kind of
> > error.
>
> Sounds nasty.  It's possible the two panics are related, especially if
> they involve a race in the multicast code, which could result in treading
> on other kernel memory, potentially leading to the thread related panic.
> My leaning would be that they are unrelated, but since we may be able to
> eliminate the multicast one (see below), that would be a good starting
> point.
>
> There are some other known stability nits in 6.x which are being worked
> on, but in general the network stack stability is higher in 6.x than 5.x
> when it comes to multicast due to the work I reference above.  If you run
> into any stability problems relating to the file system, set
> debug.mpsafevfs=0 in loader.conf -- there are a few bug fixes relating to
> running out of disk space or hitting quota limits that are fixed in HEAD,
> but not yet backported to 6.x.

Robert,

Thanks for your quick response and suggestions. We have now experienced
an additional type of crash. Type 3 is from 6.0-BETA5, it did not enter
the debugger at all and we could not generate a core.

Unfortunately the 6-BETA crash was completely different from everything
we've seen so far. The panic was related to a page fault and 'top' was the
active process. We are trying again to run our tests on 6.0, but if we
keep encountering other bugs, then those other bugs may prevent us
from determining if multicast is the problem.

We also ran our applications in 5-STABLE without reading from or writing
to disk (ie we ran the multicast data streams on a remote machine, and we
told our listener/rebroadcaster apps not to write to disk). In this
configuration we were able to run for 4 days without crashing. A few
hours before the crash we had introduced disk activity (bonnie
in a constant loop with 1G test file size). This crash was a type 1,
and we were not able to save a core. The longest we had gone before
without a crash was 6 hours, so it is possible that either load, or disk
activity help trigger the bugs we have seen.

files attached:
kernel-conf.txt (6.0 kernel)
type3-core.txt (copy of panic output to console)

We will update you with more info from our 6.0 tests when we have it.

We are in a bind right now. All modern hardware (ie emt64/amd64) only
seems to work with versions of freebsd that aren't stable when running our
applications. Many vendors do not even sell server hardware that is purely
i386. We never encountered these types of problems on freebsd 4.x, and
many of our 120+ i386 class machines that are running 4.x are showing
their age and need to be replaced. Assuming that the problems we are
experiencing are purely related to ths OS, we now don't have an OS to run
on the newer hardware we've been buying. We really need to find a way to
patch these problems or find a version of freebsd that supports our
platform and is stable. Obviously we appreciate the hard work that all of
you on the freebsd team do, and we are happy to do whatever we can to help
squash these bugs.

-
Rob Watt
#
# GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/amd64
#
# For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on
# Kernel Configuration Files:
#
#    
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#
# The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
# if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
# FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
# latest information.
#
# An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
# device lines is also present in the ../../conf/NOTES and NOTES files.
# If you are in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first
# in NOTES.
#
# $FreeBSD: src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC,v 1.421.2.11.2.1 2005/04/09 17:28:37 
kensmith Exp $

machine         amd64
cpu             HAMMER
ident           CUSTOM

# To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints
#hints          "GENERIC.hints"         # Default places to look for devices.
makeoptions     DEBUG=-g
options         KDB
options         DDB
options         BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER
options         INVARIANTS
options         INVARIANT_SUPPORT
options         WITNESS
options         WITNESS_SKIPSPIN
#makeoptions     COPTFLAGS="-O -frename-registers -pipe"

#options        SCHED_ULE               # ULE scheduler
options         SCHED_4BSD              # 4BSD scheduler
options         INET                    # InterNETworking
options         INET6                   # IPv6 communications protocols
options         FFS                     # Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options         SOFTUPDATES             # Enable FFS soft updates support
options         UFS_ACL                 # Support for access control lists
options         UFS_DIRHASH             # Improve performance on big directories
options         MD_ROOT                 # MD is a potential root device
options         NFSCLIENT               # Network Filesystem Client
options         NFSSERVER               # Network Filesystem Server
options         NFS_ROOT                # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT
options         NTFS                    # NT File System
options         MSDOSFS                 # MSDOS Filesystem
options         CD9660                  # ISO 9660 Filesystem
options         PROCFS                  # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS)
options         PSEUDOFS                # Pseudo-filesystem framework
options         GEOM_GPT                # GUID Partition Tables.
options         COMPAT_43               # Needed by COMPAT_LINUX32
options         COMPAT_IA32             # Compatible with i386 binaries
options         COMPAT_FREEBSD4         # Compatible with FreeBSD4
options         COMPAT_FREEBSD5         # Compatible with FreeBSD5
options         COMPAT_LINUX32          # Compatible with i386 linux binaries 
options         SCSI_DELAY=5000         # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options         KTRACE                  # ktrace(1) support
options         SYSVSHM                 # SYSV-style shared memory
options         SYSVMSG                 # SYSV-style message queues
options         SYSVSEM                 # SYSV-style semaphores
options         _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time 
extensions
options         KBD_INSTALL_CDEV        # install a CDEV entry in /dev
options         AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT    # Print register bitfields in debug
                                        # output.  Adds ~128k to driver.
options         AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT    # Print register bitfields in debug
                                        # output.  Adds ~215k to driver.
options         ADAPTIVE_GIANT          # Giant mutex is adaptive.
options         PREEMPTION              # Enable kernel thread preemption


options         SMP

# Workarounds for some known-to-be-broken chipsets (nVidia nForce3-Pro150)
device          atpic           # 8259A compatability

# Enabling NO_MIXED_MODE gives a performance improvement on some motherboards
# but does not work with some boards (mostly nVidia chipset based).
#options        NO_MIXED_MODE   # Don't penalize working chipsets

# Linux 32-bit ABI support
options         LINPROCFS               # Cannot be a module yet.

# Bus support.  Do not remove isa, even if you have no isa slots
device          acpi
device          isa
device          pci

# Floppy drives
device          fdc

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device          ata
device          atadisk         # ATA disk drives
device          ataraid         # ATA RAID drives
device          atapicd         # ATAPI CDROM drives
device          atapifd         # ATAPI floppy drives
device          atapist         # ATAPI tape drives
options         ATA_STATIC_ID   # Static device numbering

# SCSI Controllers
device          ahc             # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
device          ahd             # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices
#device         amd             # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T))
#device         isp             # Qlogic family
#device         ispfw           # Firmware for QLogic HBAs- normally a module
#device         mpt             # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion
#device         ncr             # NCR/Symbios Logic
#device         sym             # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets + those of 
`ncr')
#device         trm             # Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters

#device         adv             # Advansys SCSI adapters
#device         adw             # Advansys wide SCSI adapters
device          aic             # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters, AIC-6[23]60.
#device         bt              # Buslogic/Mylex MultiMaster SCSI adapters


# SCSI peripherals
device          scbus           # SCSI bus (required for SCSI)
device          ch              # SCSI media changers
device          da              # Direct Access (disks)
device          sa              # Sequential Access (tape etc)
device          cd              # CD
device          pass            # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
device          ses             # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE)

# RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
#device         amr             # AMI MegaRAID
#device         arcmsr          # Areca SATA II RAID
#device         ciss            # Compaq Smart RAID 5*
#device         dpt             # DPT Smartcache III, IV - See NOTES for options
#device         iir             # Intel Integrated RAID
#device         ips             # IBM (Adaptec) ServeRAID
#device         mly             # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
#device         twa             # 3ware 9000 series PATA/SATA RAID

# RAID controllers
device          aac             # Adaptec FSA RAID
device          aacp            # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM)
#device         ida             # Compaq Smart RAID
#device         mlx             # Mylex DAC960 family
#XXX pointer/int warnings
#device         pst             # Promise Supertrak SX6000
#device         twe             # 3ware ATA RAID

# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device          atkbdc          # AT keyboard controller
device          atkbd           # AT keyboard
device          psm             # PS/2 mouse

device          vga             # VGA video card driver

device          splash          # Splash screen and screen saver support

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device          sc

# PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
# PCMCIA and cardbus bridge support
#device         cbb             # cardbus (yenta) bridge
#device         pccard          # PC Card (16-bit) bus
#device         cardbus         # CardBus (32-bit) bus

# Serial (COM) ports
device          sio             # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports

# Parallel port
device          ppc
device          ppbus           # Parallel port bus (required)
device          lpt             # Printer
#device         plip            # TCP/IP over parallel
device          ppi             # Parallel port interface device
#device         vpo             # Requires scbus and da

# If you've got a "dumb" serial or parallel PCI card that is
# supported by the puc(4) glue driver, uncomment the following
# line to enable it (connects to the sio and/or ppc drivers):
#device         puc

# PCI Ethernet NICs.
#device         de              # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
device          em              # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card
#device         ixgb            # Intel PRO/10GbE Ethernet Card
#device         txp             # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'')
#device         vx              # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')

# PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
# NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs!
device          miibus          # MII bus support
#device         bfe             # Broadcom BCM440x 10/100 Ethernet
device          bge             # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet
#device         dc              # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
device          fxp             # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
#device         lge             # Level 1 LXT1001 gigabit Ethernet
#device         nge             # NatSemi DP83820 gigabit Ethernet
#device         pcn             # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 (precedence over 
'lnc')
#device         re              # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S
#device         rl              # RealTek 8129/8139
#device         sf              # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
#device         sis             # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
#device         sk              # SysKonnect SK-984x & SK-982x gigabit Ethernet
#device         ste             # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
#device         ti              # Alteon Networks Tigon I/II gigabit Ethernet
#device         tl              # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
#device         tx              # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'')
#device         vge             # VIA VT612x gigabit Ethernet
#device         vr              # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
#device         wb              # Winbond W89C840F
#device         xl              # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')

# ISA Ethernet NICs.  pccard NICs included.
#device         cs              # Crystal Semiconductor CS89x0 NIC
# 'device ed' requires 'device miibus'
# XXX kvtop brokenness, pointer/int warnings
#device         ed              # NE[12]000, SMC Ultra, 3c503, DS8390 cards
#device         ex              # Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 and Pro/10+
#device         ep              # Etherlink III based cards
#device         fe              # Fujitsu MB8696x based cards
# XXX kvtop brokenness, pointer/int warnings
#device         lnc             # NE2100, NE32-VL Lance Ethernet cards
#device         sn              # SMC's 9000 series of Ethernet chips
#device         xe              # Xircom pccard Ethernet

# Wireless NIC cards
#device         wlan            # 802.11 support
#device         an              # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs.
#device         awi             # BayStack 660 and others
#device         wi              # WaveLAN/Intersil/Symbol 802.11 wireless NICs.

# Pseudo devices.
device          loop            # Network loopback
device          mem             # Memory and kernel memory devices
device          io              # I/O device
device          random          # Entropy device
device          ether           # Ethernet support
device          sl              # Kernel SLIP
device          ppp             # Kernel PPP
device          tun             # Packet tunnel.
device          pty             # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
device          md              # Memory "disks"
device          gif             # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
device          faith           # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)

# The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
# Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP.
device          bpf             # Berkeley packet filter

# USB support
device          uhci            # UHCI PCI->USB interface
device          ohci            # OHCI PCI->USB interface
#device         ehci            # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0)
device          usb             # USB Bus (required)
#device         udbp            # USB Double Bulk Pipe devices
device          ugen            # Generic
device          uhid            # "Human Interface Devices"
device          ukbd            # Keyboard
device          ulpt            # Printer
device          umass           # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
device          ums             # Mouse
#device         urio            # Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player
#device         uscanner        # Scanners
# USB Ethernet, requires mii
#device         aue             # ADMtek USB Ethernet
#device         axe             # ASIX Electronics USB Ethernet
#device         cdce            # Generic USB over Ethernet
#device         cue             # CATC USB Ethernet
#device         kue             # Kawasaki LSI USB Ethernet
#device         rue             # RealTek RTL8150 USB Ethernet

# FireWire support
#device         firewire        # FireWire bus code
#device         sbp             # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da)
#device         fwe             # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!)

options         IPFIREWALL
options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE

kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled

fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
cpuid=3; apicid=03
fault virtual address   = 03
fault code              = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer     = 0x8:ffffffff803b88ca
stack pointer           = 0x10:ffffffffb6639490
frame pointer           = 0x10:ffffffffb66394f0
code segment            = base 0x0; limit 0xfffff, type=0x1b
                        = DPL=0, pres 1, long 1, def32=0, gran 1
processor eflags        = resume, IOPL=0
current process         = 48628 (top)

did not enter DDB or generate core file
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