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            "Kurt J. Lidl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: Having seperate dialout and dialin devices really are just a kludge
: for having the kernel doing locking that could be done in userland
: code.

That's not why they are there.

: Just because FreeBSD does this the same way it's been done on
: BSD-ish systems for the last 15 years doesn't mean there isn't a
: better way of doing it.

That's uncalled for.

The real reason that they are there is that ttyd waits for carrier
detect, while cua doesn't.

Warner
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