> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Josef Karthauser)
> Date: Thu 26 Sep, 2002
> Subject: Spark 5.

> Do we run on Spark 5?  Someone's selling one and a monitor for 300 UK
> pounds.  Is it worth getting hold of?

Not for FreeBSD (sun4u only, I believe); SPARC 5 is sun4m (32-bit only).

£300 is expensive - a 170MHz SPARCstation 5 goes for £75 and up on eBay
in the UK (without monitor), and I think a monitor will go for about £40.

The 70MHz and 85MHz(?) models are much slower due to cache, but I've heard
that Linux has had problems with the 170MHz model.

Solaris 9 is rather sluggish on my 85MHz system, but OpenBSD and NetBSD
run OK on my 70MHz system.

The 170MHz SPARCstation 5 was Sun's last decent mid-range workstation.

I've bought SPARCstation 5 bits from Ian at www.13w3.com - you can get
better prices on eBay if you're patient, but I'm pleased with his service.
He's currently listing a SPARC 5 for £125, 17" monitor for £65.

For FreeBSD you'd want an Ultra 1 at least - 13w3.com has a 170MHz model
listed at £225, but there were problems with Solaris 64-bit kernels on
anything less that the 200MHz model (and you have to force the 200MHz
model to boot 64-bit Solaris due to a CPU bug which allows users to
crash them).  Also, you should get the 'E' suffix models for the fast
Ethernet and wide SCSI.  

The Ultra 5 is more expensive and faster, but it's PC class, not a real
Sun.

                Cheers,

                Mark.

-- 
Mark Valentine, Thuvia Labs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>       <http://www.thuvia.co.uk>
"Tigers will do ANYTHING for a tuna fish sandwich."       Mark Valentine uses
"We're kind of stupid that way."   *munch* *munch*        and endorses FreeBSD
  -- <http://www.calvinandhobbes.com>                  <http://www.freebsd.org>

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