On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 07:30:59PM +0900, JINMEI Tatuya / ?$B?@L@C#:H?(B wrote:
> >>>>> On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 08:46:16 +1100, 
> >>>>> Edwin Groothuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> >> > And the interface configuration:
> >> > gif0: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
> >> >  tunnel inet 203.173.130.126 --> 206.123.31.114
> >> >  inet6 fe80::250:8bff:feb9:2d24%gif0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9 
> >> >  inet6 3ffe:b80:2:460::2 --> 3ffe:b80:2:460::1 prefixlen 128 
> >> 
> >> Hmm, and what command did you type to cause this problem? If possible,
> >> please give me the network topology as well.
> 
> > The problem was when "route add -inet6 default -interface gif0" was
> > used instead of the "route ... <ipaddress>". For the rest the
> > configuration and the commands were the same.
> 
> > This is a layout of the 'network':
> 
> (snip)
> 
> > The symptons were that if I setup a TCP-session, the original message
> > is at:
> > 
>http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=279914+284924+/usr/local/www/db/text/2002/freebsd-hackers/20020217.freebsd-hackers
> 
> Okay, I understand the configuration.  I did a similar test on a
> 4.5-RELEASE box, but could not reproduce the problem.  The main
> difference in my test case is I did not use ppp, so I guess ppp is
> somehow related to this problem...
> 
> Now I'd like to know:
> 
> - did you see the same problem in an environment without ppp?

That PPP link is my link to the outside world, I'm afraid I can't
help you with this one. (Yes I'm living in a backwards country)

> - what is the result of netstat -rnal when the kernel is sending
>   neighbor solicitations?

I have three captures for you: one before, one during and one in
hang state:

*** This one is from before any session:

Routing tables

Internet:
Destination        Gateway            Flags    Refs      Use    Mtu  Netif Expire
default            203.109.251.3      UGSc       11     2073   1524   tun0
62.163.31.203      203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     1900   1524   tun0
63.149.6.93        203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     2036   1524   tun0
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH       7824   496162  16384    lo0
129.127.28.4       203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     1862   1524   tun0
131.155.132.36     203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     2408   1524   tun0
152.163.159.234    203.109.251.3      UGHW3       0     1969   1524   tun0     71
192.168.0          link#7             UC          2        0   1500 vmnet1
192.168.0.1        0:bd:10:10:0:1     UHLW        0        4   1500    lo0
192.168.0.44       link#7             UHLW        1       11   1500 vmnet1
192.168.1          link#1             UC          3        0   1500   fxp0
192.168.1.1        0:50:8b:b9:2d:24   UHLW        0    31541   1500    lo0
192.168.1.2        0:5:2:b1:89:ee     UHLW        2    95980   1500   fxp0   1163
192.168.1.255      ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff  UHLWb       0       38   1500   fxp0
203.12.68.36       203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     1751   1524   tun0
203.109.251.3      203.173.157.67     UH         12        0   1524   tun0
204.57.55.54       203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     1630   1524   tun0
206.123.31.114     203.109.251.3      UGHW        2     2000   1524   tun0
212.204.230.141    203.109.251.3      UGHW        3      649   1524   tun0
217.120.67.246     203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     2049   1524   tun0
254.237.183.234    203.109.251.3      UGHW        2     2065   1500   tun0

Internet6:
Destination                             Gateway                         Flags    Refs  
    Use    Mtu    Netif Expire
::/96                                   ::1                             UGRSc       0  
:      0  16384      lo0 =>
default                                 gif0                            ULSc        0  
      0   1280     gif0
::1                                     ::1                             UH          4  
: 458445  16384      lo0
::ffff:0.0.0.0/96                       ::1                             UGRSc       0  
:      0  16384      lo0
3ffe:b80:2:460::1                       3ffe:b80:2:460::2               UH          0  
      0   1280     gif0
3ffe:b80:2:460::2                       link#9                          UHL         1  
      0   1280      lo0
fe80::/10                               ::1                             UGRSc       0  
      0  16384      lo0
fe80::%fxp0/64                          link#1                          UC          0  
      0   1500     fxp0
fe80::250:8bff:feb9:2d24%fxp0           0:50:8b:b9:2d:24                UHL         0  
      0   1500      lo0
fe80::%lo0/64                           fe80::1%lo0                     Uc          0  
      0  16384      lo0
fe80::1%lo0                             link#3                          UHL         0  
      0  16384      lo0
fe80::%vmnet1/64                        link#7                          UC          0  
      0   1500   vmnet1
fe80::2bd:10ff:fe10:1%vmnet1            0:bd:10:10:0:1                  UHL         0  
      0   1500      lo0
fe80::%tun0/64                          fe80::250:8bff:feb9:2d24%tun0   Uc          0  
      0   1500     tun0
fe80::250:8bff:feb9:2d24%tun0           link#8                          UHL         0  
      0   1500      lo0
fe80::%gif0/64                          link#9                          UC          0  
      0   1280     gif0
fe80::250:8bff:feb9:2d24%gif0           link#9                          UHL         0  
      0   1280      lo0
ff01::/32                               ::1                             U           0  
      0  16384      lo0
ff02::/16                               ::1                             UGRS        0  
      0  16384      lo0
ff02::%fxp0/32                          link#1                          UC          0  
      0   1500     fxp0
ff02::%lo0/32                           ::1                             UC          0  
      0  16384      lo0
ff02::%vmnet1/32                        link#7                          UC          0  
      0   1500   vmnet1
ff02::%tun0/32                          fe80::250:8bff:feb9:2d24%tun0   UC          0  
      0   1500     tun0
ff02::%gif0/32                          link#9                          UC          0  
      0   1280     gif0

*** This one is just after the tcp-session is setup:

Routing tables

Internet:
Destination        Gateway            Flags    Refs      Use    Mtu  Netif Expire
default            203.109.251.3      UGSc       11     2073   1524   tun0
62.163.31.203      203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     1902   1524   tun0
63.149.6.93        203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     2036   1524   tun0
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH       7824   496172  16384    lo0
129.127.28.4       203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     1862   1524   tun0
131.155.132.36     203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     2408   1524   tun0
152.163.159.234    203.109.251.3      UGHW3       0     1969   1524   tun0     66
192.168.0          link#7             UC          2        0   1500 vmnet1
192.168.0.1        0:bd:10:10:0:1     UHLW        0        4   1500    lo0
192.168.0.44       link#7             UHLW        1       11   1500 vmnet1
192.168.1          link#1             UC          3        0   1500   fxp0
192.168.1.1        0:50:8b:b9:2d:24   UHLW        0    31541   1500    lo0
192.168.1.2        0:5:2:b1:89:ee     UHLW        2    95980   1500   fxp0   1158
192.168.1.255      ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff  UHLWb       0       38   1500   fxp0
203.12.68.36       203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     1752   1524   tun0
203.109.251.3      203.173.157.67     UH         12        0   1524   tun0
204.57.55.54       203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     1631   1524   tun0
206.123.31.114     203.109.251.3      UGHW        2     2003   1524   tun0
212.204.230.141    203.109.251.3      UGHW        3      649   1524   tun0
217.120.67.246     203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     2049   1524   tun0
254.237.183.234    203.109.251.3      UGHW        2     2065   1500   tun0

Internet6:
Destination                             Gateway                         Flags    Refs  
    Use    Mtu    Netif Expire
::/96                                   ::1                             UGRSc       0  
:      0  16384      lo0 =>
default                                 gif0                            ULSc        1  
      0   1280     gif0
::1                                     ::1                             UH          4  
: 458445  16384      lo0
::ffff:0.0.0.0/96                       ::1                             UGRSc       0  
:      0  16384      lo0
3ffe:b80:2:460::1                       3ffe:b80:2:460::2               UH          0  
      0   1280     gif0
3ffe:b80:2:460::2                       link#9                          UHL         1  
      0   1280      lo0
3ffe:8050:201:1860:2a0:c9ff:feed:b7ea   gif0                            UHLW        1  
      3   1280     gif0
fe80::/10                               ::1                             UGRSc       0  
      0  16384      lo0
fe80::%fxp0/64                          link#1                          UC          0  
      0   1500     fxp0
fe80::250:8bff:feb9:2d24%fxp0           0:50:8b:b9:2d:24                UHL         0  
      0   1500      lo0
fe80::%lo0/64                           fe80::1%lo0                     Uc          0  
      0  16384      lo0
fe80::1%lo0                             link#3                          UHL         0  
      0  16384      lo0
fe80::%vmnet1/64                        link#7                          UC          0  
      0   1500   vmnet1
fe80::2bd:10ff:fe10:1%vmnet1            0:bd:10:10:0:1                  UHL         0  
      0   1500      lo0
fe80::%tun0/64                          fe80::250:8bff:feb9:2d24%tun0   Uc          0  
      0   1500     tun0
fe80::250:8bff:feb9:2d24%tun0           link#8                          UHL         0  
      0   1500      lo0
fe80::%gif0/64                          link#9                          UC          0  
      0   1280     gif0
fe80::250:8bff:feb9:2d24%gif0           link#9                          UHL         0  
      0   1280      lo0
ff01::/32                               ::1                             U           0  
      0  16384      lo0
ff02::/16                               ::1                             UGRS        0  
      0  16384      lo0
ff02::%fxp0/32                          link#1                          UC          0  
      0   1500     fxp0
ff02::%lo0/32                           ::1                             UC          0  
      0  16384      lo0
ff02::%vmnet1/32                        link#7                          UC          0  
      0   1500   vmnet1
ff02::%tun0/32                          fe80::250:8bff:feb9:2d24%tun0   UC          0  
      0   1500     tun0
ff02::%gif0/32                          link#9                          UC          0  
      0   1280     gif0

*** And this one is after is hangs:

Routing tables

Internet:
Destination        Gateway            Flags    Refs      Use    Mtu  Netif Expire
default            203.109.251.3      UGSc       11     2073   1524   tun0
62.163.31.203      203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     1907   1524   tun0
63.149.6.93        203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     2036   1524   tun0
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH       7824   496188  16384    lo0
129.127.28.4       203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     1862   1524   tun0
131.155.132.36     203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     2408   1524   tun0
152.163.159.234    203.109.251.3      UGHW3       0     1969   1524   tun0     45
192.168.0          link#7             UC          2        0   1500 vmnet1
192.168.0.1        0:bd:10:10:0:1     UHLW        0        4   1500    lo0
192.168.0.44       link#7             UHLW        1       11   1500 vmnet1
192.168.1          link#1             UC          3        0   1500   fxp0
192.168.1.1        0:50:8b:b9:2d:24   UHLW        0    31541   1500    lo0
192.168.1.2        0:5:2:b1:89:ee     UHLW        2    95980   1500   fxp0   1137
192.168.1.255      ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff  UHLWb       0       38   1500   fxp0
203.12.68.36       203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     1755   1524   tun0
203.109.251.3      203.173.157.67     UH         12        0   1524   tun0
204.57.55.54       203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     1631   1524   tun0
206.123.31.114     203.109.251.3      UGHW        2     2017   1524   tun0
212.204.230.141    203.109.251.3      UGHW        3      649   1524   tun0
217.120.67.246     203.109.251.3      UGHW        1     2049   1524   tun0
254.237.183.234    203.109.251.3      UGHW        3     2072   1500   tun0

Internet6:
Destination                             Gateway                         Flags    Refs  
    Use    Mtu    Netif Expire
::/96                                   ::1                             UGRSc       0  
:      0  16384      lo0 =>
default                                 gif0                            ULSc        1  
      0   1280     gif0
::1                                     ::1                             UH          4  
: 458445  16384      lo0
::ffff:0.0.0.0/96                       ::1                             UGRSc       0  
:      0  16384      lo0
3ffe:b80:2:460::1                       3ffe:b80:2:460::2               UH          0  
      0   1280     gif0
3ffe:b80:2:460::2                       link#9                          UHL         1  
      0   1280      lo0
fe80::/10                               ::1                             UGRSc       0  
      0  16384      lo0
fe80::%fxp0/64                          link#1                          UC          0  
      0   1500     fxp0
fe80::250:8bff:feb9:2d24%fxp0           0:50:8b:b9:2d:24                UHL         0  
      0   1500      lo0
fe80::%lo0/64                           fe80::1%lo0                     Uc          0  
      0  16384      lo0
fe80::1%lo0                             link#3                          UHL         0  
      0  16384      lo0
fe80::%vmnet1/64                        link#7                          UC          0  
      0   1500   vmnet1
fe80::2bd:10ff:fe10:1%vmnet1            0:bd:10:10:0:1                  UHL         0  
      0   1500      lo0
fe80::%tun0/64                          fe80::250:8bff:feb9:2d24%tun0   Uc          0  
      0   1500     tun0
fe80::250:8bff:feb9:2d24%tun0           link#8                          UHL         0  
      0   1500      lo0
fe80::%gif0/64                          link#9                          UC          0  
      0   1280     gif0
fe80::250:8bff:feb9:2d24%gif0           link#9                          UHL         0  
      0   1280      lo0
ff01::/32                               ::1                             U           0  
      0  16384      lo0
ff02::/16                               ::1                             UGRS        0  
      0  16384      lo0
ff02::%fxp0/32                          link#1                          UC          0  
      0   1500     fxp0
ff02::%lo0/32                           ::1                             UC          0  
      0  16384      lo0
ff02::%vmnet1/32                        link#7                          UC          0  
      0   1500   vmnet1
ff02::%tun0/32                          fe80::250:8bff:feb9:2d24%tun0   UC          0  
      0   1500     tun0
ff02::%gif0/32                          link#9                          UC          0  
      0   1280     gif0

For your convenience, this is in the diff between the first and the second:
 Internet6:
 Destination                             Gateway                         Flags    Refs 
     Use    Mtu    Netif Expire
 ::/96                                   ::1                             UGRSc       0  
 :      0  16384      lo0 =>
-default                                 gif0                            ULSc        0 
       0   1280     gif0
+default                                 gif0                            ULSc        1 
+       0   1280     gif0
 ::1                                     ::1                             UH          4  
 : 458445  16384      lo0
 ::ffff:0.0.0.0/96                       ::1                             UGRSc       0  
 :      0  16384      lo0
 3ffe:b80:2:460::1                       3ffe:b80:2:460::2               UH          0 
       0   1280     gif0
 3ffe:b80:2:460::2                       link#9                          UHL         1 
       0   1280      lo0
+3ffe:8050:201:1860:2a0:c9ff:feed:b7ea   gif0                            UHLW        1 
+       3   1280     gif0
 fe80::/10                               ::1                             UGRSc       0 
       0  16384      lo0
 fe80::%fxp0/64                          link#1                          UC          0 
       0   1500     fxp0
 fe80::250:8bff:feb9:2d24%fxp0           0:50:8b:b9:2d:24                UHL         0 
       0   1500      lo0

And this in the diff between the second and the third:
 ::ffff:0.0.0.0/96                       ::1                             UGRSc       0  
 :      0  16384      lo0
 3ffe:b80:2:460::1                       3ffe:b80:2:460::2               UH          0 
       0   1280     gif0
 3ffe:b80:2:460::2                       link#9                          UHL         1 
       0   1280      lo0
-3ffe:8050:201:1860:2a0:c9ff:feed:b7ea   gif0                            UHLW        1 
       3   1280     gif0
 fe80::/10                               ::1                             UGRSc       0 
       0  16384      lo0
 fe80::%fxp0/64                          link#1                          UC          0 
       0   1500     fxp0
 fe80::250:8bff:feb9:2d24%fxp0           0:50:8b:b9:2d:24                UHL         0 
       0   1500      lo0


> - I guess some process (or kernel) modifies the route to the
>   destination.  Could you run 'route -n monitor' while the session to
>   see the modification?

The first message is when the session is setup, the second one is
a short time later (not directly after the last neighbour solicitation
message). I don't know what the 254.237.183.234 is.

got message of size 260 on Mon Feb 25 22:04:25 2002
RTM_ADD: Add Route: len 260, pid: 0, seq 0, errno 0, 
flags:<UP,HOST,DONE,LLINFO,WASCLONED>
locks:  inits: 
sockaddrs: <DST,GATEWAY,IFP,IFA>
 3ffe:8050:201:1860:2a0:c9ff:feed:b7ea gif0 gif0 fe80::250:8bff:feb9:2d24%gif0

got message of size 124 on Mon Feb 25 22:04:38 2002
RTM_LOSING: Kernel Suspects Partitioning: len 124, pid: 0, seq 0, errno 0, 
flags:<UP,GATEWAY,HOST,DONE,WASCLONED>
locks:  inits: 
sockaddrs: <DST,GATEWAY>
 254.237.183.234 203.109.251.3


If you need more information, feel free to ask.

Edwin

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