basically it's just that pre-emtion just muddies the waters more..


On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Anjali Kulkarni wrote:

> Right, that was my question too, doesent seem connected with pre-emptive
> kernels...
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg Lehey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Julian Elischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Peter Pentchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gersh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bernd
> Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Anjali Kulkarni"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 6:14 AM
> Subject: Re: setjmp/longjmp
> 
> 
> > On Tuesday,  2 October 2001 at 12:43:54 -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Peter Pentchev wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 10:56:24AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote:
> > >>> [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html]
> > >>>
> > >>> On Friday, 28 September 2001 at 10:12:14 -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
> > >>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Gersh wrote:
> > >>>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Bernd Walter wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 07:03:51PM +0530, Anjali Kulkarni wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Does anyone know whether it is advisable or not to use
> > >>>>>>> setjmp/longjmp within kernel code? I could not see any
> > >>>>>>> setjmp/longjmp in kernel source code. Is there a good reason for
> > >>>>>>> this or can it be used?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> You need to look again, it's used in several places in the kernel.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Look at sys/i386/i386/db_interface.c
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Yeah but it would probably be a pretty bad idea to use it without
> > >>>> very careful thought.  Especialy with the kernel becoming
> > >>>> pre-emptable in the future..
> > >>>
> > >>> Can you think of a scenario where it wouldn't work?  Preemption
> > >>> doesn't tear stacks apart, right?
> > >>
> > >> How about a case of a longjmp() back from under an acquired lock/mutex?
> > >> Like function A sets up a jump buffer, calls function B, B acquires
> > >> a lock, B calls C, C longjmp()'s back to A; what happens to the lock?
> > >>
> > >> It would work if A were aware of B's lock and the possibility of a code
> > >> path that would end up with it still being held; I presume that this is
> > >> what Julian meant by 'very careful thought'.
> > >
> > > pretty much...
> >
> > That's wrong, of course, but I don't see what this has to do with
> > preemptive kernels.  This is the same incorrect usages as performing
> > malloc() and then longjmp()ing over the free().
> >
> > Greg
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