>[You may get better responses if you send 2 seperate emails with one
>question in each]

I didnīt want to send TWO OT msgs :)))

>Did you use "dangerously dedicated" mode? I was able to get a booting,
>running system on this drive using "dangerously dedicated" mode.

Iīm booting off ad0.  When fdisk of ad1 asked me about the MBR, I said 
donīt touch it.

> > mfb1# fdisk -BI ad1
> > ******* Working on device /dev/ad1 *******
> > fdisk: invalid fdisk partition table found
>
>Odd ... What does fdisk with no parameters say?

it doesnīt find ad1s1e :

******* Working on device /dev/ad0 *******
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=1216 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=1216 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
     start 63, size 192717 (94 Meg), flag 80 (active)
         beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1;
         end: cyl 11/ sector 63/ head 254
The data for partition 2 is:
sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
     start 192780, size 192780 (94 Meg), flag 0
         beg: cyl 12/ sector 1/ head 0;
         end: cyl 23/ sector 63/ head 254
The data for partition 3 is:
sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
     start 385560, size 9414090 (4596 Meg), flag 0
         beg: cyl 24/ sector 1/ head 0;
         end: cyl 609/ sector 63/ head 254
The data for partition 4 is:
sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
     start 9799650, size 9414090 (4596 Meg), flag 0
         beg: cyl 610/ sector 1/ head 0;
         end: cyl 171/ sector 63/ head 254

and when I go back into /stand/sysintall fdisk, it shows me:

Disk name:      ad1                                    FDISK Partition Editor
DISK Geometry:  16435 cyls/145 heads/63 sectors = 150133725 sectors (73307MB)

Offset  Size(ST)    End     Name  PType      Desc  Subtype    Flags

0         63         62        -      6     unused        0
63  150136497  150136559    ad1s1      3    freebsd      165    C

when earlier in the creation run, it showed me only one partition of 8000 meg

>If you need the system up immediately, you should probably use a
>different drive. If you can afford to struggle with it for a while, I
>would appreciate it if we could work together to figure out if there's
>something wrong with this model of drive.

Unfortunately, Iīm on a contract and canīt waste the client'money chasing 
this if I canīt fix it pronto.  pulling the drives is quicker and cheaper

thanks,
Len




>-Bill
>
>--
>If a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush,
>then what can I get for two hands in the bush?

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