Doesn't any one remember Netiquette these days and trim what they are
replying to??
[ thread left below to see how bad this is getting.. ]
On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 02:42:35PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> This is a good reference, but sadly it only really refers to "the
> sockets paradigm as first popularized by BSD", which means they could
> have followed the API without touching a single line of BSD code.
>
> To reiterate: What I'm looking for is some true, hard evidence that
> Microsoft has used BSD code in any of their operating systems. A
> number of people have sent me anecdotal evidence and "I heard from a
> friend" type stories, but sadly I cannot use any of that. What I need
> is tangible proof - the people working on this story have already
> heard all the stories and now what they're looking for is the kind of
> confirmation that can be cited and independently verified. I can't
> name names, but suffice it to say that it will be a small (and very
> visible) coup for us if we can help them prove this. Thanks.
>
> - Jordan
>
> From: "Joseph A. Mallett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?
> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:06:23 -0400 (EDT)
>
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/psdk/winsock/apistart_9g1e.htm mentions
> > BSD, not sure if is direct enough.
> >
> > I'm downloading the SDK right now so I can grepmonkey through the latest
> > and greatest headers, etc.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > --
> > [ Joseph Mallett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] [ http://srcsys.org ]
> > [ xMach Core Team xMach: Proactively Unbloated Microkernel BSD ]
> > [ FreeBSD, NetBSD, & xMach User; (Obj)C(++) Coder ] [ http://xMach.org ]
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Joseph A. Mallett wrote:
> >
> > > Do you happen to have any of their Winsock propoganda handy (specifically
> > > developer materials or winsock.h header file)? I know for a fact that they
> > > have said repetedly that some of it was taken directly from Berkely. I'm
> > > just not sure where... I'm going to start digging through my stuff to see
> > > if I can find anything.
> > >
> > > --
> > > [ Joseph Mallett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] [ http://srcsys.org ]
> > > [ xMach Core Team xMach: Proactively Unbloated Microkernel BSD ]
> > > [ FreeBSD, NetBSD, & xMach User; (Obj)C(++) Coder ] [ http://xMach.org ]
> > >
> > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've had several marketing types approach me recently for details as
> > > > to whether or not Microsoft was using the BSD TCP/IP stack and/or user
> > > > utilities, and though it's always been "common knowledge" in the
> > > > community that they were, when I set about to "prove" it I found it to
> > > > be less easy than I'd thought. I've strings'd various binaries and
> > > > DLLs in my copy of Windows 98 but have yet to find anything resembling
> > > > proof. Does anyone out there have any details or discovery techniques
> > > > for confirming or disproving this assertion either way? It would be
> > > > very useful (for us) from a PR standpoint to know.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > - Jordan
> > > >
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