On 18 Jan 2001, at 20:13, Warner Losh wrote:

> Still, I don't think it is too onerous a requirement that a buildworld
> have happened first.

I disagree.  Unless you qualify the above, you're saying that if I install 
FreeBSD for the first time, in order to create a custom kernel, I need to 
make world.  Sorry, but that's breaking a long standing tradition of not 
needing to make world before building a customer kernel.  And 
expecting someone new to FreeBSD to master build world before 
getting them used to building a kernel is a bit too much of an ask.

> The other reason to encourage it strongly is that there are too many
> binary incompatibilities with the kernel interface for some programs,
> even in -stable, so we'd want to encourage people to build and install
> both at the same time.  I'd imagine that the same sort of argument
> would apply for picobsd since you don't want that to be cross
> threaded. :-).  But maybe I'm being overly paranoid here.  Maybe I've
> answered one too many questions that boil down to "just rebuild the
> world and stop arguing with me, things will start to work".

Either we change the handbook to make it clear, as I hope my patch[1] 
does, or we fix buildkernel so it works as advertised in the handbook.  I 
don't mind either solution.


[1] <http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=24148>

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