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So, Matt, I understand that you think that the folks who are want to turn off overcommit are looking to hang themselves, but how much does it cost to sell them the rope? Would adding the sysctl to turn off overcommit be a costly, time-consuming hunk of work, or a three-line patch? If it's the latter, why not provide the functionality? (Obviously if there's significant new work and complexity involved, changing the status quo demands proving a string case.) I don't have the knowledge of the VM system to answer the question; I can imagine a system with one or two VM allocation routines where the change would be trivial, and a more complex system where it would be very difficult. Which one do I run? :-) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ted Faber fa...@isi.edu USC/ISI Computer Scientist http://www.isi.edu/~faber (310) 822-1511 x190 PGP Key: http://www.isi.edu/~faber/pubkey.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBN4vHO4b4eisfQ5rpAQHspwP/TELO+iZFOOnHdM6eMApmYfmJtrjO5z2M ZljFFV97Otsd+nVnI9I8OcICOo5sRLhPe/9G25Kv0Iz2yhsH4TUqWqyA5z5cZS2A ov5FmOG+MA9I6SwbOGiWKpVsjbMvBrBOF1aPm7VfxmhnZtERv14tQwosHwp9HAad mgd5iwUPlj0= =spdJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message