On Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 09:56:08AM -0700, Wes Peters wrote:

 > "Koster, K.J." wrote:
 > 
 > > Oh, those Americans. :-)
 > > Let's see: $1 per gallon in the US. $1.2 per litre in the Netherlands,
 > > times 4.5 (or thereabouts) is $5.4 per gallon in the Netherlands.
 > > Everyone in the Netherlands drives cars; everyone thinks gas is expensive.
 > > This means that the gas prices in the US can go up 440% and people will
 > > still drive cars and buy gas (and complain about gas prices, of course).
 > 
 > First, this off-topic for -hackers, so I've directed replies to -chat
 > if you want to continue.
 
Sage advice :-)

 > Second, I know people that commute distances that would cross your
 > country.  I suspect the average American uses a lot more gas than the
 > average Nederlander.

Bah.  In Western Australia there's a sheep station called "Little Texas"
which just happens to have a land area larger than the state of Texas;
I live in Adelaide, so I have to go 600 km East or 3000 km West or 3000 km
North to find another population centre with more than 50,000 people; 
the nearest interstate Capital city is 980 km away.  Our cities are also
a hell of a lot more widely laid-out than yours:  Adelaide, with a pop.
of 1.1 million, has the same surface area as New York City.
So let's accept that distances in the US are pissant little commuter hops,
shall we? :-)

 > Third, our gas prices here are held down by all sorts of weird
 > government intervention, bizarre market shenanigans, and a public that
 > doesn't understand that the price of gasoline has risen only 4x in the
 > same period that the price of cars has risen 10x.  That's certainly
 > NOT a "natural occurence".

Our prices are held *up* by the fact that over 50% of them constitute 
State and Federal taxes.

 > Fourth, I'm paying $1.48/gal right now, and I want the price to go
 > DOWN, not UP.

I'm paying A$0.83c/L right now, which is roughly A$3.73/gal, which is
roughly US$2.76.  That means the US price of petroleum can rise by almost
100% and people still still drive the kind of distances which usually
constitute international travel.

    - mark :-)

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