On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Janie Dykes wrote:
> When scouring through the threads - this one in particular caught my
> attention. In my experience, which is still very new, I think all of
> you make excellent points. For the most part, the novice/average
> person, believes that hackers are malicious, destructive individuals. A
> huge number of computer users are misled and misinformed about the true
> definition of the term 'hacker'. This is unfortunate - if those people
> could spend some time reading the brilliant posts to this list, they
> might realize that we are not all 16 year olds, hiding behind the glow
*cough* Care to explain that comment?
> of the monitor, reading their email and stealing their passwords and
> credit card information and posting it on IRC. I have a point. :] The
> first time I experienced that curiosity - I got a little carried away.
> eh hem I learned that my skills, which included aptness
> and dexterity, had been misdirected. Upon my awakening, I was blessed
> with my mentor. He challenged me to use my skills productively. In
> retrospect, I learned [the hard way] and gained some experience with
> some help from my mentor [some of you may know Peter Mountain -
> BRU2000]. All in all, there are many contributing factors to becoming a
> hacker. I rarely post to this list - so I hope that my lengthy post
> doesn't offend. So on that note - I will continue observing the minds
> at work.
>
> Thanks for the opportunity to post -
> Janie Dykes
>
>
>
> Wes Peters wrote:
> >
> > "G. Adam Stanislav" wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 01:18:52AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
> > > > > > You either are a hacker, or you are not. It is not something someone else
> > > > > > can teach you.
> > > > >
> > > > > This deserves a FAQ entry. What an awesome response.
> > > >
> > > > But it's certainly NOT something that you just are, either. You have to
> > > > have talent, but you also have to have experience. This is most often
> > > > done by a mentor.
> > >
> > > If you have the innate curiosity mentioned in my message, you will obtain
> > > experience whether you have a mentor or not. Experience is best obtained
> > > by trying things. It cannot be imparted by anyone else (although, it can
> > > be encouraged).
> >
> > And, in some cases, disasters averted. I think all of us here have seen
> > a few graphic examples lately of what happens when the mentoring process
> > doesn't work.
> >
> > I think being a hacker is a combination of talent, ethics, and experience.
> > I've known talented and experienced programmers who weren't hackers,
> > either because they didn't have the innate curiousity you mention or
> > because they were ethically challenged and used their skills to steal,
> > cheat, and destroy, which are *not* part of the hacker ethos. Hackers
> > create, crackers steal and destroy.
> >
> > But I'm certain you new that. ;^)
> >
> > --
> > "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"
> >
> > Wes Peters Softweyr LLC
> > http://softweyr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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