On 20/10/2013 03:00, Daniel Herring wrote: > pkg-ng has been broken for a year now (the public repo is nearly > useless), and I see no indication when the repo will be rebuilt.
That's a bit hyperbolic don't you think? Many people are using pkgng perfectly happily. Yes, there is a problem[*] with the official pkg repository at http://pkg.freebsd.org/ in that the sum total of the contents is one fairly outdated copy of pkg-1.0.x.txz. That is just enough to bootstrap pkgng by using /usr/sbin/pkg -- which is really the absolute minimum that has to be there. In the mean time there are packages available at http://pkg-test.freebsd.org/pkg-test-${ABI}/latest which is using the same machinery to build packages as will be used by the official package builds, just made available under a different URL. [There are also package sets published by other groups, eg. Exonetric or PC-BSD. Or you can build your own very easily.] "How exactly" I hear you ask "should I have been able to know that?" I agree that documentation of this is quite hard to find. OK, *very* hard to find. That's not good. The use of pkg-test was only meant as a transient thing but it has taken longer than expected to shake the bugs out and get everything working properly. The good news is that this situation is about to change; imminently. Expect to see an announcement about http://pkg.freebsd.org/ in the near future. > It would have saved me several hours if the Handbook advised users to > not run "pkg2ng" until the repo is actually ready. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pkgng-intro.html These instructions are correct for the way we want package bootstrap to work ultimately once all of the package building etc. is in place. Given the imminent announcement I don't think that now is the right time to change this section. > https://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng#Availability_of_binary_pkgs_for_Download These are still correct, but somewhat incomplete nowadays. > P.S. IMO, this is a rather significant problem with the 10-beta. Please be assured that 10.0-RELEASE is a significant milestone for pkgng and there is a lot of work going on behind the scenes to make everything ready in time for that release. It's not just getting the official package building cluster into shape and actually starting regular builds of packages: there will be a new pkg-1.2 release with lots of improvements, and there are ongoing projects to update the entire ports tree to make it better integrated with pkgng. Not to mention the changes outlined by bapt and erwin during the recent Dev Summit session on ports and documented here: https://wiki.freebsd.org/201309DevSummit/Ports Cheers, Matthew [*] Well, only one problem relevant to this discussion. -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey
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