Update for the mailing list:

Ben and I have agreed to see what a testing plan could look like, and are
going to collaborate offline a bit on it. If anyone else is interested in
working with us in the running/management of this, please let me know. Or
if you are interested in being a tester, keep your eye on this mailing list
and I will post more details when we are ready for you.

Thanks!
Alice.

On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 3:47 PM Ben Hutton <b...@benhutton.com.au> wrote:

> Hi Alice,
>
> I would be more than happy to help where I can.
>
> While I have been using FreeBSD on servers for around 25 years I have
> recently started using it on Laptops in an attempt to migrate away from
> MacOS. It has been a challenge even with being comfortable with FreeBSD
> already. I would very much like to help in improving the overall experience
> of FreeBSD on Laptops.
>
> Kind regards
> Ben
> On 1/27/25 18:24, Alice Sowerby wrote:
>
> Hi Steven,
>
> Thanks for doing this, super helpful! I do believe that this kind of
> testing is really valuable. My understanding is that though there is a
> process for logging bugs in FreeBSD, there isn't a clear place to lodge
> usability issues, or this sort of end-to-end testing. But I'm new to
> FreeBSD and if there is something I would love to be pointed in the right
> direction.
>
> The Foundation's Laptop project is a subset of the overall community's
> work related to laptops, and the work we are doing is visible in the repo
> you mentioned. At the moment we are aiming for this repo to be a place for
> making the work visible, and for it to be read-only (not a place to report
> bugs or file test reports).
>
> However, the Foundation is aware that there is a need for a more
> UX-focused testing effort for this project (and maybe for FreeBSD in
> general?). It's something we need to solve for sooner rather than later.
> We've put out a call for any volunteers in the community who can help
> with this, both as testers and also helping to set up and manage a
> community-based testing group. So far we've seen a bit of interest in
> testing, less so for helping manage the effort.
>
> I intend to discuss this with Ed Maste tomorrow, so I may have a
> suggestion after that. In the meantime, if anyone would like to help, we
> would welcome it with open arms!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alice.
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:54 AM Steven Harms (High-Security Mail) <
> sgha...@stevengharms.com> wrote:
>
>> I recently did an install of FreeBSD and kept copious notes of where
>> things were confusing scary, or where I hit non-support, etc. In short,
>> what does installing and the first steps of FreeBSD feel like. I have some
>> ideas for projects. (1) What's the best way to document my experience?
>> Additionally, (2) is it appropriate to add issues directly to
>> https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/proj-laptop/issues? Most of them
>> seem to be created by one person who seems to be the project lead (Alice
>> S.) and I wasn't sure if it was appropriate for the unwashed to drop items
>> in there.
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