At 12:21 AM -0500 11/16/03, Jeff Roberson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Garance A Drosihn wrote:

 > Or maybe the real problem is that we claim that there will
 > be no API/ABI changes after X.0-RELEASE, and we've really
 missed that mark with 5.0-RELEASE, for a variety of reasons.
 If we're going to keep missing that mark with the 6.x-series,
 then we should plan to do something to make life a little
> less painful.

The API and ABI are frozen when we make 5.x-STABLE and
branch 6.x.  Until then it's open to change.  This was
decided up front.

Hmm, Yes it was. I was mixing up the time of X.0-RELEASE and making the branch for <X+1>-current. Good point.

Please note that I'm not unhappy with any of these changes.
I think they're all very good to get in.  But we do have
hundreds of developers trying to track -current, and I
think we'd get some productivity boost whenever we can
make these changes a little smoother.  As I mentioned
earlier, it's only going to get worse as we have more
developers trying to contribute.  Developers that we *do*
want to be tracking -current...

<aside>
And to mention just one change that I'm particularly happy
with, the change so a single kernel works on both SMP and
single-processor systems has already saved me some grief.
My hardware problems were (temporarily) solved by replacing
my dual-CPU board with a single-CPU one.  I'd be in even
more pain today if it wasn't for that change!  I still
haven't figured out what I'll do with the 4.9-stable
system on this machine...

[disclaimer: today has been a long day for me, all spent
 rebuilding freebsd systems from this hardware headache.
 I just now finished successfully upgrading the last 5.x
 system I have (it just booted up as I am typing this).
 So don't mind me too much...]
</aside>

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