On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 15:20, Scott Long wrote:
> Hiten Pandya wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 04:39:42PM -0700, Scott Long wrote the words 
> > in effect of:
> >
> > >Craig Rodrigues wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 10:26:10AM -0800, Will Andrews wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Of course, these things can be fixed.  But I consider this change
> > >>>gratuitous and it breaks standard compatability rules: deprecate
> > >>>for one major version and remove in the second.  I haven't seen
> > >>>any reason why this couldn't be added to vm/vm_param.h:
> > >>>
> > >>>#define VM_METER VM_TOTAL
> > >>>
> > >>>for compatability purposes.  This change is way too sudden in an
> > >>>external API (if it's supposed to be internal, then protect it
> > >>>with an #ifdef _KERNEL already!).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>How about this then:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Index: vm_param.h
> > >>===================================================================
> > >>RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/vm/vm_param.h,v
> > >>retrieving revision 1.16
> > >>diff -u -r1.16 vm_param.h
> > >>--- vm_param.h    2003/01/11 07:29:46     1.16
> > >>+++ vm_param.h    2003/01/17 23:25:52
> > >>@@ -89,6 +89,8 @@
> > >>#define VM_SWAPPING_ENABLED       11      /* swapping enabled */
> > >>#define   VM_MAXID                12      /* number of valid vm ids */
> > >>
> > >>+#define VM_METER VM_TOTAL /* backwards compatibility, struct vmmeter
> > >>*/
> > >>+
> > >>#define CTL_VM_NAMES { \
> > >>  { 0, 0 }, \
> > >>  { "vmtotal", CTLTYPE_STRUCT }, \
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>The only place where VM_METER is used in this directory was in 
> > vm_meter.c:
> > >>
> > >>   240 SYSCTL_PROC(_vm, VM_METER, vmmeter, CTLTYPE_OPAQUE|CTLFLAG_RD,
> > >>   241     0, sizeof(struct vmtotal), vmtotal, "S,vmtotal",
> > >>   242     "System virtual memory statistics");
> > >>
> > >>This changed to:
> > >>
> > >>   240 SYSCTL_PROC(_vm, VM_TOTAL, vmtotal, CTLTYPE_OPAQUE|CTLFLAG_RD,
> > >>   241     0, sizeof(struct vmtotal), vmtotal, "S,vmtotal",
> > >>   242     "System virtual memory statistics");
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >This is ugly and only further perpetuates what appears to be a
> > >gratuitous API
> > >change.  Let's wait to hear from the submitter (Hiten) and committer
> > >(Matt) to
> > >see why this was needed in the first place.
> > >
> > >Hiten?  Matt?
> >
> >
> > The change was made, because VM_METER was a bogus name for what it did.
> > It returned struct vmtotal, but we named it VM_METER.  Infact, I tried
> > to push this change some long time ago, but there were complications
> > (people busy etc...).
> >
> > I think applicatins to should be changed to use VM_TOTAL, instead of
> > VM_METER, because that's the correct name.  This is the same issue with
> > the KMEM_METER define, which will be resolved once I get around to it.
> >
> > I sent this change to Matt first, to check if it was right, since he is
> > the VM guru and whatnot.  Also, the change was made quite a while ago.
> > Before we entered the freeze, IIRC.  IMHO, backing it out will just make
> > more and more apps use it, and it will be totally sad -- but hey, I am
> > not Release Engineer, so final decision is up to you.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > P.S. Apologies for taking long to reply, I was out party-ing. :^)
> >
> > --
> > Hiten Pandya ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > http://www.unixdaemons.com/~hiten/
> 
> 
> Ok, I agree that the naming could cause confusion since there is a
> vmmeter struct and a vmtotal struct.  However, the Release Engineering
> policy that was set out at the start of RELENG_5_0 is that public API
> changes need review.  I'm not saying that those reviews won't be
> approved, but we want to keep the pain involved in 5.0->5.1 as low
> as possible.  This is causing pain with several high-profile ports.
> 
> In my opinion, the inconsistency in VM_METER was annoying, but
> not enough to justify breaking an interface that has been existence
> since _1994_.  Dude, that is _9_ years.  If you'd like the name to
> change, lets hold of for RELENG_5 to happen.  Please back out the
> name change.

Scott, the API change does not exist in RELENG_5_0.  This change only
went into HEAD.

Joe

> 
> Scott
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