Pre-DEVFS, vty's were named ttyv0-ttyvf, ttyv10-ttyv1f, etc. When DEVFS is used, the vty's are numbered base-36 instead of base-16. This breaks X if the first 16 tty's are in use. What I want to know is whether we intended to implement this new scheme of tty numbering (to be consistant across all devices perhaps?) or whether this change was unintended. Either case, this should be a quick fix in either syscons or X. (Yes, I'm one of those loons who use 36 vty's) -Jon To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message