On 8/9/2025 8:52 AM, David G Lawrence wrote:
On 9 Aug 2025, at 07:29, David Greenman-Lawrence <[email protected]> wrote:

FWIW, I do have an opinion on this: I think that "pkg delete -af" is
a useful thing that should not destroy your base system. We should find
a way to make that work as it always has

Today, it will destroy any kernel modules installed from packages, including 
those necessary for the display to work. It will destroy the ability for WiFi 
to work if you???re using wifibox. There are a lot of other things in ports 
that are essential to the system for some systems.

    We can fix that, too. ...but destroying kernel modules doesn't mean your
system doesn't work - it just means X11 won't work when you reboot - but then
it wouldn't anyway because you deleted X11. But, here's the thing: X11 didn't
work when you first installed the base system, either. And perhaps your
Wifi didn't work out of the box, either. So you have some work to do to
get back basic functionality - but you knew that when you did the
"pkg delete -af" in the first place.

-DG

I cannot but agree wholeheartedly.. The actual situation with
pkg delete and pkgbase is (for me) simply absurd.

kmod in the ports is a different problem – it shows the inability of FBSD developers to implement these things on their own, so this solution has some problems. And don't kill me, I fully understand that it's not possible , but that doesn't change the previous fact.

Michal


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