Hi,

> On 5 Apr 2025, at 09:40, Søren Schmidt <soren.schm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Søren Schmidt
> soren.schm...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On 5 Apr 2025, at 05.56, Tomoaki AOKI <junch...@dec.sakura.ne.jp> wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 19:44:49 -0700
>> Steve Kargl <kar...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 4/4/25 19:28, Alexander Motin wrote:
>>>> On 04.04.2025 21:45, Steve Kargl wrote:
>>>>> Anyone using a Samsung T7 external SSD with FreeBSD current?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I plug the drive into a USB 2.0 port, I see
>>>>> 
>>>>> usb_msc_auto_quirk: UQ_MSC_NO_GETMAXLUN set for USB mass storage 
>>>>> device Samsung PSSD T7 Shield (0x04e8:0x61fb)
>>>>> ugen0.2: <Samsung PSSD T7 Shield> at usbus0
>>>>> umass0 on uhub1
>>>>> umass0: <Samsung PSSD T7 Shield, class 0/0, rev 2.10/1.00, addr 47> on 
>>>>> usbus0
>>>>> umass0:  SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0100
>>>>> umass0:5:0: Attached to scbus5
>>>>> da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus5 target 0 lun 0
>>>>> da0: <Samsung PSSD T7 Shield 0> Fixed Direct Access SPC-4 SCSI device
>>>>> da0: Serial Number S6NPNS0Y201077Y
>>>>> da0: 40.000MB/s transfers
>>>>> da0: 1907729MB (3907029168 512 byte sectors)
>>>>> da0: quirks=0x2<NO_6_BYTE>
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, the SSD is supposedly a USB 3.2 gen 2 device with a ~1000 MBps
>>>>> read/write speed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When plugged into a USB 3.x port, I typically see
>>>>> 
>>>>> ugen0.2: <vendor 0x0507 product 0x0204> at usbus0
>>>>> 
>>>>> and the device is not listed with usbconfig.  Repeatedly, unplugging the
>>>>> ssd and re-plugging it into the USB 3.x port, I eventually get the 
>>>>> above dmesg output.  Do I need a quirk for this SSD to get 
>>>>> recognized?  Also,
>>>>> shouldn't it connect with faster transfer rate than 'da0: 40.0MB/s'?
>>>> 
>>>> 40MB/s exactly means the device connected to USB2 controller or at least 
>>>> at USB2 speed.  Considering that other times it does not connect at all, 
>>>> I wonder if some signal quality issue or something else prevents it from 
>>>> going proper USB3.  IIRC USB3 uses completely different wires in the 
>>>> connector.  Also USB2 and USB3 can be handled by different controllers 
>>>> with different drivers, so not detecting it still might be a software 
>>>> issue, but I can't say much about that area.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for confirming my suspension.
>>> 
>>> I've tried two different cables.  I have few more I can test.
>>> Unfortunately, I have to use a short USB 3.x extension cable
>>> as the port is on the motherboard under a table.
> 
> Well, if you are using USB C you could try to turn the connector 180 degrees 
> around (it fits both ways apposed to the old connectors), depending on driver 
> quality and fase of the moon the USB3 side might not be seen both ways …

There are 8 distinct ways to plug in a USB C - USB C cable, and it’s possible 
that they don’t all behave the same. I had such a cable from Apple that failed 
in some orientations; once they had recovered from their astonishment they 
replaced it.

> Søren Schmidt
> s...@deepcore.dk / s...@freebsd.org
> "So much code to hack, so little time"
> 
> 

--
Bob Bishop
r...@gid.co.uk




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