On Dec 14, 2024, at 06:21, Ed Maste <ema...@freebsd.org> wrote: > On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 at 19:42, Mark Millard <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> I tend to use https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/*/*/*/*/*.txz >> for crude bisecting without needing to do builds. >> >> Are you saying that such will no longer be a possibility? (This is >> not a which-compression-style question.) > > With pkgbase these distribution sets are not used by the installer, so > they will no longer be required for their original purpose. > > It may be that there are a sufficient number of other use cases (like > yours) that we still build them anyway, for some time. I would imagine > most use cases can also switch to pkgbase packages, though. If it's > different kernels you're looking to test it will be straightforward to > use the kernel packages instead.
At least currently, there is no history of PkgBase builds available, for download, just the most recent of of latest and weekly. Would artifact.ci.freebsd.org <http://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/> be replaced with a source of PkgBase build history that would allow the approximate bisecting of pre-built materials? Without the history, activity like bisecting would require doing the builds, making things take much much longer for various platform instances that take notable time to do builds. >> I've also used the likes of the below with kgdb to look at reported >> backtraces from problems that have been reported --for versions of >> FreeBSD that I do not have a boot environment for. (Not wanting to >> do a normal install on other media and to boot/configure it --just >> to look around.) >> >> http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/14.2-RELEASE/kernel.txz >> http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/14.2-RELEASE/kernel-dbg.txz >> http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/14.2-RELEASE/src.txz >> >> (But there is no equivalent for patch revisions of *.*-RELEASE 's .) >> >> http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/arm64/13.4-STABLE/kernel.txz >> http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/arm64/13.4-STABLE/kernel-dbg.txz >> http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/arm64/13.4-STABLE/src.txz >> >> Similar question for those: no longer to be possible? > > The same applies to these ones - they won't be needed after moving to > pkgbase, but I imagine we could still build them if they're being used > for other purposes. base_release_* will exist, also spanning patches. I've not yet tested if these are binary matches to the official non-PkgBase builds from http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ such that, say, kernel backtrace addresses are usable across the types of builds. (Sort of a reproducibility criteria.) base_weekly is like http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ , other than having no history prior to the most recent base_weekly as things are. Lack of history also has issues when it turns out that base_latest is or base_weekly is broken/unusable. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com
