> On 22 Aug 2019, at 06:04, O. Hartmann <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Am Wed, 21 Aug 2019 22:29:29 +0000
> [email protected] schrieb:
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>> August 22, 2019 12:23 AM, "O. Hartmann" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Am Wed, 21 Aug 2019 15:58:24 -0500
>>> Karl Denninger <[email protected]> schrieb:
>>> 
>>>> I would see if you can get REFIND loaded and use that.  I have a Lenovo
>>>> X1 Carbon Gen 6 and that's the answer I used, as it allows multi-boot
>>>> (e.g. Win10 and FreeBSD) easily.  
>>> 
>>> mmmhhh, Linux software to make FreeBSD boot? ;-)  
>> 
>> rEFInd is not "Linux software", I use it to get a nice menu to choose 
>> between FreeBSD and
>> Windows on my desktop. No Linux in sight. If anything, rEFInd has its roots 
>> in Macs :)
> 
> My apologizes; when searching the net, the first "logo" I see is this silly 
> penguine face. I'm
> sorry about making such simple implications.
> 
>> 
>>> This Lenovo firmware seems very reluctant or the efibootmgr doesn't operate 
>>> properly on
>>> setting variables: when trying to label the boot number (e.g. Boot000A) 
>>> with "-L FreeBSD",
>>> it is always set back to "Boot000A ATA HDD0". On other platforms, like 
>>> Fujitsu servers or
>>> even the cheap crap from ASRock a label once set is permenent until 
>>> deleted.  
>> 
>> Many laptops just ignore the boot variables outright. My X240 is the same.
>> I never switched to a proper efibootmgr setup on mine, I just have 
>> loader.efi as bootx64.efi
>> and that's it.
> 
> I tried copying loader.efi as bootx64.efi - but didn't help.
> 
>>>> If there's a way to get into the EFI shell on Lenovo's laptops from the
>>>> BIOS during the boot I've not found it yet.  There's supposed to be on
>>>> all EFI devices, but you know how "supposed to" works in many cases, 
>>>> right?  
>> 
>> You can just download the EFI Shell from the internet, it's a normal .efi 
>> executable you can
>> "boot". Put it as efi/boot/bootx64.efi onto a USB flash drive and enjoy.
> 
> I'll give this a chance as soon I have hands on the workitem again.
> 

The reason to try rEFInd and/or EFI shell is to see if we get extra error 
messages otherwise hidden by GUI.

In any case, to get to the root cause, we would need to start to insert more 
debug printouts and see what we will find. Once you are ready to go with it, 
you can poke me directly and then we can start…

rgds,
toomas

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