On Jul 17, 2014, at 13:00, Adrian Chadd <adr...@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 17 July 2014 12:57, Andreas Nilsson <andrn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Adrian Chadd <adr...@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
>>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
>>> can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a bit of a
>>> problem;
>> 
>> I disagree on this. For network services on linux ( apart from ssh ), I want
>> that started very seldom. But I do want the package installed so that when I
>> need it, it is there. Having it autostart as part of being installed is
>> breaking KISS and in some way unix philosophy: I asked for something to be
>> installed, not installed and autostarted.
> 
> That's cool. We can disagree on that. But the fact that you have to
> edit a file to enable things and hope you get the right start entry in
> /etc/rc.conf or /usr/local/etc/rc.conf, or wherever you put it is, is
> a pain.

In the context of the email thread, no one in their sane mind will configure 
Amazon/Heroku/etc. VMs manually.  They will use ansible/puppet/chef/etc. to 
install packages and to start services after they are installed and configured. 
 

I honestly don't see what the big deal is.  Most of the time you will need to 
configure your apache server before you can start it.  

--
Rui Paulo



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