On Aug 2, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Doug Barton wrote:
> Those all sound like nice steps forward, thank you for pointing them
> out. Nothing would make me happier than to be proven wrong in this area.
> What would be nice I think would be if these steps were formalized, and
> shared more openly. Having things on the wiki is nice, but reporting
> things in detail on the mailing lists puts it in the archives for future
> reference, as well as making it more broadly available to start with.

One thing to remember about the IETF.  There's many vendors that devote 
significant resources to the IETF.  While I was at Cisco, for example, I know 
that we provided audio and video bridges to IEFT meetings to facilitate remote 
attendance at the meetings.  Cisco dedicated several engineers to ensure that 
the audio and video quality remained good during the meetings and were able to 
use facilities cisco normally used for things like WebEx and MeetingPlace.  
With a global presence and infrastructure, they were able to pull it off.  I'm 
not aware of similar resources within the project.

We don't have any such benefactor in the project, so we have to rely on the 
kindness of strangers. AsiaBSDcon live streams most of its talks, but uses a 
free service that changes from year to year and is quite good for talks, but 
can't do meetings at all.  Other meeting things do meetings OK, but the video 
or audio quality sucks unless you have high end gear for the source. Mapping 
out what hardware, software and service combinations work would be very 
beneficial.  I suspect this will vary based on geographic location (stuff that 
works good in the US won't work in EU or Asia and vice versa).  These issues 
are what makes it hit or miss.  While it is easy to skype one or two people 
into a meeting, that scales poorly to more than two. Plus if things are going 
poorly, the attempt to broadcast the meeting can derail or eat into the time 
available significantly.

I guess this is a long way to say that while one to one, and one to many 
problems have relatively easy solutions, many to many like we need still 
remains fussy and difficult.

Warner

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