On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 10:24:06PM +0200, Alexander Motin wrote:
> On 01.11.2011 19:50, Dennis K?gel wrote:
> > Not sure if replying on-list or off-list makes more sense...
> 
> Replying on-list could share experience to other users.
> 
> > Anyway, some first impressions, on stable/9:
> > 
> > The lab environment here is a EMC VNX / Clariion SAN, which has two Storage 
> > Processors, connected to different switches, connected to two isp(4)s on 
> > the test machine. So at any time, the machine sees four paths, but only two 
> > are available (depending on which SP owns the LUN).
> > 
> > 580# camcontrol devlist
> > <DGC VRAID 0531>                   at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (da0,pass0)
> > <DGC VRAID 0531>                   at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (da1,pass1)
> > <DGC VRAID 0531>                   at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (da2,pass2)
> > <DGC VRAID 0531>                   at scbus1 target 1 lun 0 (da3,pass3)
> > <COMPAQ RAID 1(1VOLUME OK>         at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (da4,pass4)
> > <COMPAQ RAID 0  VOLUME OK>         at scbus2 target 1 lun 0 (da5,pass5)
> > <hp DVD D  DS8D3SH HHE7>           at scbus4 target 0 lun 0 (cd0,pass6)
> > 
> > I miss the ability to "add" disks to automatic mode multipaths, but I (just 
> > now) realized this only makes sense when gmultipath has some kind of path 
> > checking facility (like periodically trying to read sector 0 of each 
> > configured device, this is was Linux' devicemapper-multipathd does).
> 
> In automatic mode other paths supposed to be detected via metadata
> reading. If in your case some paths are not readable, automatic mode
> can't work as expected. By the way, could you describe how your
> configuration supposed to work, like when other paths will start
> working? 

Without knowledge of the particular Clariion SAN Dennis is working with,
I've seen some so-called active/active RAID controllers force a LUN 
fail over from one controller to another (taking it offline for 3 seconds
in the process) because the LUN received an I/O down a path to the controller
that was formerly taking the standby role for that LUN (and it was per-LUN,
so some would be owned by one controller and some by the other).  During
the controller switch, all I/O to the LUN would fail.  Thankfully that
particular RAID model where I observed this behaviour hasn't been sold in
several years, but I would tend to expect such behaviour at the lower
end of the storage market with the higher end units doing true active/active
configurations. (and no, I won't name the manufacturer on a public list)

This is exactly why Linux ships with a multipath configuration file, so
it can describe exactly what form of brain damage the controller in
question implements so it can work around it, and maybe even 
document some vendor-specific extensions so that the host can detect
which controller is taking which role for a particular path.

Even some controllers that don't have pathological behaviour when
they receive I/O down the wrong path have sub-optimal behaviour unless
you choose the right path.  NetApp SANs in particular typically have two
independant controllers with a high-speed internal interconnect, however
there is a measurable and not-insignificant penalty for sending the I/O
to the "partner" controller for a LUN, across the internal interconnect
(called a "VTIC" I believe) to the "owner" controller.  I've been told,
although I have not measured this myself, that it can add several ms to
a transaction, which when talking about SAN storage is potentially several
times what it takes to do the same I/O directly to the controller that
owns it.  There's probably a way to make the "partner" controller not
advertise the LUN until it takes over in a failover scenario, but every
NetApp I've worked with is set (by default I believe) to advertise the
LUN out both controllers.

Gary
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