I figured out how to reproduce the ttywri hang at will (I'm sure there are other ways, but this works for me 100%): 1) using SecureCRT and ssh2, ssh into your machine 2) run "find /" 3) click your mouse in the window and hold down. the scrolling will stop. hold this down for a few seconds. 4) let go of the mouse button, the buffer will flush and then the process will hang in ttywri: 2847 anthony 4 0 936K 620K ttywri 0:00 0.00% 0.00% find Since I can reproduce this at will, on both stable and current, if anyone wants me to reproduce it and give the results of something, let me know. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message