On Friday,  7 January 2000 at 23:46:49 +1100, Darren Reed wrote:
> In some email I received from Warner Losh, sie wrote:
>>
>> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Josef Karthauser writes:
>> : My 3c589d works just fine now, along with suspend/resume :)  (under 4.0).
>>
>> The issue with the 3c589d is with its speed.  It is falling back to
>> the timeout routine to send data rather than getting an interrupt when
>> the tx has happened (or something like this, I'm reporting second hand
>> stuff).
>
> Whatever it is, results in ping times being 1000ms then 10ms then 1000ms
> then 10ms...when it responds.

This doesn't look typical of the problems we've been discussing.
First, they appear to occur more with -CURRENT, and secondly they
don't affect the ping times.  What I've been seeing is that everything
is fine until a collision occurs, after which something times out and
it takes a 1 second timeout before it continues.  It's easiest to see
with long ftp transfers.

> i.e. it's a mistake to use FreeBSD 3.x with the 3c589d.

Mine worked fine under 3.x.  The problem seems to have crept in in
about October last year (1999).

On Friday,  7 January 2000 at 12:52:28 -0800, Mike Smith wrote:
>>> The issue with the 3c589d is with its speed.  It is falling back to
>>> the timeout routine to send data rather than getting an interrupt when
>>> the tx has happened (or something like this, I'm reporting second hand
>>> stuff).
>>
>> Whatever it is, results in ping times being 1000ms then 10ms then 1000ms
>> then 10ms...when it responds.
>
> This is typical for interrupt misconfiguration for this driver.  When you
> get the interrupt configuration right, it works fine.
>
> (No, getting the interrupt configuration right is not a trivial task.)

That may be the answer for Darren's problem.  It's definitely not the
case for the ones we have been discussing on -mobile.

Greg
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