Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I couldn't find anything relevant in the mail archives. /dev/MAKEDEV contains references to chown and chgrp which are in /usr/sbin. This makes it impossible to run MAKEDEV when the /usr fs is not available. I had recent occasion when I had to execute MAKEDEV before /usr could be mounted---in fact, I had to execute MAKEDEV so that /usr could be mounted on the disk whose LUN id had changed to something for which there were no entries in /dev. Yes, I know that I should have run MAKEDEV before changing the id on the disk, but I do feel one should be able run MAKEDEV without needing to have /usr mounted. Shouldn't chown and chgrp be in /sbin? Thanks, Rajappa -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a.k.a. Rajappa Iyer. New York, New York. We're too busy mopping the floor to turn off the faucet. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message