Chris wrote:
Nikolas Britton wrote:
From a business perspective we look amateurish.
I have held off thus far...
I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an
outsider the website and "Image" conveys a real lack of
professionalism, which is not true.
No you don't - would you prefer multi-colored windows? A penguin? What?
hmm?, fuck no I hate penguins (esp Linux ones), there's nothing wrong
with chucky
Are we looking into the geo-political correctness as in the like as
the NetBSD project took?
No, just a better image in the enterprises and data centers of the world.
I'm looking at the start page for FreeBSD right now and here are the
things I do not like about it (please don't be offended if I step on
toe's and ego's, I am only trying to better FreeBSD):
Here we go - Let's just re engineer life as we know it. Lets also not
offend gays, users of color, males, females, users of religion, users
of no religion, users of Windows, users of Linux, users of DOS, users
of NetWare, etc, etc, etc.
How did you extrapolate that from what I said? I guess I did step your
toe's and ego, I was only trying to give constructive criticism.
1. The "FreeBSD" logo is crap, not beastie (he's a keeper!!!, I'll
hunt you down and do bad things to you if you take him away!), Just
the black wannabe (and badly done) 3D effect "FreeBSD" part, really,
I hate it. Redo the whole logo in photoshop with a bold, antialiased
modern web font: (Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Century Gothic, etc.)
and forget the whole 3D effect as that is so 90s. Generally all of
your logo designs are unprofessional (the logos at the bottom of the
page: FreeBSD MALL, UseNix, Daemon News, and Powered by FreeBSD for
example)
You will do no such thing - see above, read the threads on the NetBSD
site as to the redoing of the "logo"
I DON'T want it "redesigned" (like NetBSD did) just re-done... same logo
just better looking, image is everything you know.
2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site
with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of
Cascading Style Sheets?)
CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing?
No, it's a web standard: http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ also it would be a
good idea to look into XHTML: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/
3. The color scheme is not "complementary" anyone who has been to art
school or taken design classes will know what I talking about, read
up about basic color theory here:
http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-theory-basics.html (again, ever
here of Cascading Style Sheets??)
Guess what mate - most of us are NOT into art.
Yes I can tell, I was trying to offer some helpfull tips
Get real. Deal with the OS, not the look and feel of the site. Do I
really care if a design has passion blue opposed to blue?
Yes
Do you really thing techies are THAT into pastels?
I don't like pastels ether, to girly, I like bold and neutral colors.
If you want to re design something (Actually - is sounds like you have
been watching way too much TLC) then get a gig on Monster House.
I watch the history channel most of the time or the courses offered by
the local college on channel 20 , I really think TLC has gone down hill
with all the trading spaces type shows, though page is cute. It's just
that I've always had a good eye for this type of stuff.
4. I like the Beastie logo on the boot loader screen but ASCII art is
unprofessional... It would be better if you made the color ASCII
beastie the default.
Who cares?!?! It's resource friendly tho...
That is true.
I have no real issues with the layout of the site and it would be
nice if the installer was more user friendly but I am content with
the way it is, maybe you should change the color scheme of the
installer to match the website?
Snip - not worth repeating.
FreeBSD is badly in need of a PR/Design/Marketing department.
Maybe you can start, The Queer-Eye for the BSD-Guy.
If thats what it takes to get FreeBSD out of obscurity and into the
enterprise then yes I will, just look at what apple did with BSD and
mozilla did with firefox, I don't want to see FreeBSD (or the other
BSDs) die into obscurity as I really like them.
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