On 20/06/18 10:00, Ryan Joseph wrote:
On Jun 20, 2018, at 3:50 PM, Michael Van Canneyt <mich...@freepascal.org> wrote:> 
> Because it is simply a bad idea ?
Yeah that’s what the programming gurus in ivory towers and professors keep 
saying but what about the person actually trying to finish some work? It really 
sucks trying to fight the compiler sometimes because of engrained dogma.

How does an external preprocessor work if the compiler doesn’t about it? 
Doesn’t it totally mess up the line numbers for debugging? I’d happily write my 
own even if it was compatible with the compiler.

Pascal has some trivial macro support. {$define m:=xyz}> > If you need more than 
that, you can use m4 or so. Lazarus has support for> pre-compile commands, so you can 
always configure it to preprocess your> files if you are so inclined.

We've been here before, and not long ago.

I've done my fair share of language advocacy in the past and in general am no friend of C, but I suggest that a number of people- on both the "pure" and the "pragmatic" sides of the argument- could very much do with "cooling it".

I'm pretty sure that the preprocessor issue was discussed a few months ago with somebody pointing out that the Pascal compiler's macro handling was deficient in that it had no concept of parameters. I believe that the consensus was that it might possibly be desirable for the compiler to be able to invoke an external preprocessor for the main unit and then for each one that it imported, but that we didn't get as far as considering its implications for include files etc.

The other alternative would be break the compiler in such a way that it was usable from a standard makefile, but since there isn't separate compilation of definition and implementation parts this would probably impact on type safety. I believe that this too has been debated in the past, and has attracted even less enthusiasm than a hook for an extrnal preprocessor preprocessor.

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Mark Morgan Lloyd
markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk

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