On 03/29/2017 01:15 PM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:


On Wed, 29 Mar 2017, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis via fpc-pascal wrote:

Hi,

On 29/3/2017 9:57 μμ, fredvs wrote:
Hello.

Some developers treat me as dinosaur because I use threads in place of
doing
parallelism.

Huh, ok, but why parallelism is better and how to do it with fpc ?

a nice article I've found long ago when I was researching the same topic "Threading/Concurrency vs. Parallelism" is the following :

http://tutorials.jenkov.com/java-concurrency/concurrency-vs-parallelism.html

 and I tried the multithreadprocslaz package in Lazarus :

http://wiki.freepascal.org/Parallel_procedures

Showing nicely that parallelism in a single process implies threads.
I would not pay too much attention to what these developers are saying.


Either I'm dense, which is entirely possible, or the author of that article didn't do a good job of making his point, even assuming he had one.

Thinking about this a bit more I would say that "threads" are a means (vehicle) to achieve parallelism. I think that in the majority of programming contexts they are synonymous. But I can think of other contexts where they may not be: Say animating a film. You have 1000 computers generating frames to be assembled into a final sequence. The process of dispatching each frame render is most likely not going to be done with the OSes thread call, but through a networked work queue of some sort (ala Torque or something). So you have the "task" (rendering the movie) being worked on in "parallel" via a networked job dispatch mechanism.

Or the case of using "make -j ..." which "forks" multiple jobs (compile, link, ...) in parallel based on a dependency tree.

I say threading is parallelism, even if just one form of it. The other methods of parallelism I mentioned here could also be done in FPC with the appropriate code. But that is a rather nebulous topic to discuss. Concrete answers for which are only available when you know how a specific job needs to be broken up.

I'm still looking for a good easy to use job queue myself...

-Jon

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Jon Foster
JF Possibilities, Inc.
j...@jfpossibilities.com

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