Hmm, currently I am also learning Oberon. No any language requires an IDE. I use vim. Others might use emacs. These are enough. What we need is a simple editor (if you like, GNU nano or simply "cat > 1.pas" is okay) and a compiler. They can make the world, although not that efficiently.
Not the best always win. It is the truth. About why Pascal "lost" the war (In the accent of some people. I highly doubt it.) is complex. IMHO, on the hand, the Bell Lab wrote Unix in C and C was then "binded" to the OS. On the other hand, Mr. Wirth created a lot of new languages in the following years: Pascal(<1970), Modula(1975), Modula-2(1979), Oberon(1987), Oberon-2(1991), etc. The style of all the following languages differ a lot from that of Pascal, while Modula and Oberon differ relatively little, which makes Modula and Oberon a little hard to be spread. I don't agree with the idea that "BEGIN...END" determines the failure of Pascal, as syntax completion is for that. Both "BEGIN...END" and "{...}" are finished in the same time if they were done by computer. On the contrary, it is part of the way of Pascal being elegant. 2009/10/13 Gustavo Enrique Jimenez <gejime...@gmail.com>: > 2009/10/12 Rainer Stratmann <rainerstratm...@t-online.de>: >> Am Montag, 12. Oktober 2009 16:21 schrieb Gustavo Enrique Jimenez: >>> 2009/10/12 Rainer Stratmann <rainerstratm...@t-online.de>: >>> > Am Montag, 12. Oktober 2009 11:02 schrieb Jürgen Hestermann: >>> >> > Remember, Pascal is merely a TEACHING language, unsuitable for >>> >> > commercial software development, which is why we have C. :) >>> >> >>> >> And why should that be the case? What are the outstanding feature of C >>> >> that make it so supperiour? It's illogical and hard to maintain syntax? >>> >> Or is it just that it was available for free on all unix systems? >>> > >>> > Yes, it is available everywhere. >>> > And it is easier to copy unix code then. >>> > >>> > Remember that it is still not easy to come to freepascal. >>> > You have to configure a debian testing system and apt-get lazarus and so >>> > on... Nearly nowhere the lazarus package is preinstalled. >>> >>> You don't need Debian Testing. My system is Debian Stable (i386) since >>> 2001/2002. Never have had a serious problem installing >>> Lazarus/Freepascal. >> >> How do you install Lazarus/Freepascal with apt or else? >> I am a friend of userfriendly software... > > > Download fpc-2.2.4-3.i386.deb.tar and lazarus_0.9.28-0.i386.deb.tar > > tar -xf *.tar > dpkg -i *.deb <- as root > > Gustavo > _______________________________________________ > fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pas...@lists.freepascal.org > http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal > _______________________________________________ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal