That's fair.  Currently in my eyes it's more of an academic curiosity currently that i would probably take parts of and program conventionally.

Funny how you mention "black box" because recently there was a news article about scientists increasingly not understanding why machine learning is working the way it is with apparent patterns of emergent behaviour.

Kit

On 10/11/2022 22:17, Sven Barth wrote:
Am 10.11.2022 um 19:10 schrieb J. Gareth Moreton via fpc-devel:
Hi everyone,

This has been something that has been on my mind for a while now, but with my increasingly more complex optimisations being developed for the Free Pascal Compiler and the code becoming an ever bigger spiderweb of conditions, it got me to start wondering... might compiler optimisation be a candidate for AI? Often I try to hand-optimise assembly language to get the same output in fewer cycles (and fewer bytes too if possible), and then see if I can program the compiler to match it.  I can't hope to catch every possible optimisation though, and I wonder if using an AI in some way to develop more efficient machine code has ever been a serious contender for research.  I have heard of stories like the Deepmind AI finding a faster way to multiply matrices, so it seems logical that it can improve instruction processes.

You still need to feed the model with the necessary rules and with necessary training data of both correct and incorrect approaches.

But even then *I* wouldn't want to have any of that black box mambo jumbo in FPC, cause when a bug occurs in the optimizations due to some decision the model made... well... tough luck. With the current approach you need to bash your head a bit against the next wall to find the location of the issue, but with a machine learning approach (let's not call it AI, cause there's nothing “intelligent” about that) you can't even do that. You can only fiddle with what you fed into the model and hope for the best (and wonder why it now fails at a completely different area).

Regards,
Sven

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