On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 8:32 AM Henry Vermaak <henry.verm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 02:26:20PM +0300, Nikolai Zhubr wrote: > > 20.02.2019 13:21, Sven Barth via fpc-devel: > > [...] > > >And we don't agree here. For us inline variables is one of the most > > >horrid if not *the* most horrid thing Embarcadero could have done to > > >Object Pascal. > > > > Could you elaborate a bit about it? > > While I'm not really sure what they have done exactly (not using latest > > Delphi and probably not going to), I've somehow got very used to (and > > confortable with) Java's inline declarations, especially "for (int i = 0; > > ....)" and similar constructs, and now I find myself doing this way all the > > time, because: > > > > 1. it makes it easier to see the whole picture just looking at the loop > > body, no need to scroll up; (The loop body might be just 10 lines of code, > > whereas the whole containing function sometimes has 1000s) > > > > 2. it isoltates the scope of such variable(s), therefore preventing some > > sorts of accidental misuse outside of e.g. the containing loop (which still > > do happen to me ocasionally in Pascal). > > I've already tried to make these points, nobody seems to buy it. IIRC > Michael (vC) said that functions shouldn't be that long, so then it's > not a problem (perhaps his world is perfect, but mine certainly isn't).
Anyone can split a function in many others. It's not so difficult and, actually, it should be done. > I'm mostly more interested in limiting the scope to prevent accidental > use, like you. It can also offer more fine grained control of where > managed variables get freed. Try to see restrictions as a good thing. In this case, which Pascal doesn't allow to declare inline variables, you must split big functions, which has many local variables, in others to have a better understanding of the algorithm. At the end, you might have a better design and reuse of the code. Everybody wins: you, your code, Pascal team - as they don't need to change the compiler - and Niklaus Wirth might not throw a curse in us. regards, Marcos Douglas _______________________________________________ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel