Hey,

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 05:40:16PM +0200, Andres G. Aragoneses wrote:
> On 16/09/14 17:48, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> >On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 10:22 +0200, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
> >>So it's better to only have 15 students working on important things,
> >>rather than having these 15 students, plus 10 others working on less
> >>important things?
> >
> >Nope! But maybe with a better selection process we could instead end up
> >with 20 students working on important things, with 5 working on less
> >important things, and hopefully 0 on projects that don't match GNOME's
> >priorities at all.
> 
> Maybe in the years that Google doesn't give many slots, you're right, a
> better selection process would help. But for example, this year's summer,
> Google gave enough slots to cover all the students that had good ratings
> from the mentors. So in cases like this, if more "less important" things
> have been selected by the students, you cannot really do anything. We don't
> tell the students to cancel their proposal and make another proposal for a
> different module. The ratings are based both on the quality of the proposal
> and the quality of the background of the students (the likelihood that the
> student is going to do a good job).
> 
> So in this case, the only way for the overall numbers to have more people
> working on important modules than on non-important ones, would be to reject
> the proposals for the non-important modules, leaving the slots empty. And
> slots empty doesn't mean that they get reserved for next years or that the
> stipend comes to the Foundation or anything, so it doesn't make much sense
> to do this.

Something which would help to focus student proposals on 'important'
modules would be to have many more ideas for these modules on the idea
page https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreach/SummerOfCode/2014/Ideas as early as
possible. I'd say that at least half of the students make a proposal
based on an idea from this page. However, if we try to do that, I
suspect we'll quickly hit a limit on mentoring resources for said
projects. We generally don't recommend that a mentor has more than 2
students to take care of during summer.

Christophe

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