On 11/03/11 5:59 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 3 November 2011 12:53, Nathan<nawr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I wish we didn't always have to dispense with this tired argument that >> making editing easier will inundate the projects with idiots. Easy and >> open editing is the ethos that built the whole project. > Yes. All arguments of this form are saying "newbies are fundamentally > a problem." This is what I mean by the newbie hostility of the > incumbents as the big barrier. > > "Making editing easier will lead to backlogs!" = "newbies are a problem" > "Making adding references easier will lead to backlogs!" = "newbies > are a problem" > "Letting people create pages will make work!" = "newbies are a problem" > > As Kim notes, it's project-wide adminitis. > > I don't have a ready solution - you can't just demand people be more > welcoming and expect it to happen - but I think this is the key to the > problem.
When a problem has become systemic the first challenge is to recognize it. o person is explicitly stating, "Nrebies are a problem." The problem won't be solved with the WikiLove template either, since that's nothing more than institutionalized condescension. Ray _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
