On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 04:10:54PM +0100, Thomas Morton wrote: > > > > The *first* instance to be asked about such thing are editors, not > > readers. I mean, the first question is "Do *we* want it?". Readers > > opinion could be one of the arguments in discussion; likely one of the > > most important ones; but decision should be on editors. And Board > > should act in opposition to editors just if there is serious threat > > for the project existence. However, nobody gave any reason in favor of > > avoiding editors' will in favor of Board's decision. Nothing rational, > > just personal wishes of a couple of people. And, again, if those > > wishes could pass without a lot of drama, I would be fine with it. > > However, that's not the case. > > > As always; I disagree with this view in the strongest possible way :) > > Readers should always be our primary focus, and their needs should drive > everything we do - from editing/writing through to policy and technical > changes. They are our life blood and our reason for existing.
I oppose any form of reader/editor dichotomy in the strongest possible way. A wiki operates on the premise that all readers are editors, and all editors are readers. Any kind of distinction is pathological within the context of a wiki and will hasten its demise. (As we are in fact seeing) [1] So as a matter of dogma in the context of running a wiki, readers are important in the sense that they need to be converted into editor/readers. If you want to make a distinction, it would be wise to stop running a wiki, and start looking for a different paradigm. Possibly if we feel that certain encyclopedias are finished; we may indeed want to stop running those wikis, kill off those communities, harvest the content; and start using ye olde Nupedia model to polish the final product. (Of course, I do have an opinion on whether or not an encyclopedia can be considered "finished" at a point in time dominated by Moore's law) sincerely, Kim Bruning [1] One of the things that impresses me about the current foundation staff is that they recognize the growing dichotomy as a problem, and are willing to fight to prevent it. :-) -- [Non-pgp mail clients may show pgp-signature as attachment] gpg (www.gnupg.org) Fingerprint for key FEF9DD72 5ED6 E215 73EE AD84 E03A 01C5 94AC 7B0E FEF9 DD72 _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l