Hi Sarah I just love the narcissism in this email. I really want to comment but I don't want to be called a troll again......maybe later.
Much love Elizabeth On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com>wrote: > Hi all - > > I came across a lighter version of this conversation on another Wikimedia > list, and felt the need to share my similar thoughts and statements that I > made previously. > > For the past year, I have been examining opportunities involving Indigenous > communities of North America and opportunities to utilize Wikipedia and > related websites as an affordable, unique and global form of cultural > preservation. I have my undergraduate in Native American Studies, and I am > obtaining my masters currently. My final paper (not quite a thesis) for > graduation will be a strong examination of the opportunities related to > Indigenous communities and opportunities/pros/cons related to Wikipedia. > I'm > actually presenting on my preliminary observations and concerns at > Wikimania, you can learn a bit more here: > > > http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikimedia_%26_Indigenous_Peoples:_Pros,_Cons_and_Community > > In the United States, as far as I am aware, I am the only person thinking > about this on a higher level. While right now I am quite busy with other > matters, come this Fall I will be diving head first into my research. I > will > be serving as Wikipedian in Residence at the National Museum of the > American > Indian, where I will be working with staff to examine these concerns. One > of our biggest concerns lies with *oral history*. We have had countless > conversations about the struggles with "no original research" however, in > oral history based societies, we will have a very hard time moving beyond > anything else. As stated previously, the majority of content created > related > to Indigenous communities in North America was often written by (and still > is) Anglo anthropologists - some of that data is highly out of date and is > still being utilized on Wikipedia as a source today. > > This project, Oral Citations, follows closely with the type of work I am > seeking to do. I have been planning to examine Wikipedia (English at first) > research policies and consider proposals or changes in relation to serious > research and Indigenous communities. Of course, it all comes down to > funding, and Native people of North American are often the first overlooked > group - it will take a lot of work, years of effort, and a lot of buy in > that is needed to be gathered from inside the community itself. > > I'm babbling right now, but, this is a very passionate topic for me. I see > Wikipedia as providing an affordable and unique way for Indigenous > communities to not only learn valuable skills - many of the communities > here > in America are among the poorest in the world, you'd think you were in a > developing country, and kids barely receive beyond an elementary school > education - but to have a broad arena to share stories (that the community > chooses to share of course), beliefs, cosmologies, and traditions so that > they are accessible and *vetted* for researchers and community members > around the world. > > I do hope that some of you are attending Wikimania, I'd like to be able to > have a break out session of sorts or an unconference to discuss this topic > further. I'm hoping in the next year to have an international conference of > sorts that brings together Indigenous people, open source gurus, and > Wiki-folks to examine opportunities, processes, and belief systems in > regards to opportunities. > > Feel free to email me directly, again, right now I am unable to move > quickly > in any major projects due to my already big work load, but, I'm hoping that > this will be large part of my career work as an advocate for Native rights, > a scholar, and an open source-lover. > > -Sarah > [[w:en:User:SarahStierch]] > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 8:32 AM, CasteloBranco < > michelcastelobra...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > And why does the people who speaks Malayalam, Hindi and Sepedi need to > > write in English in order to have those oral citations published? > > English is not as universal as some people think. I guess we need to > > find an answer in their own language, so the solution won't be another > > barrier. Also, the escope of this project is much more important for the > > projects on these languages, and for speakers of these languages, rather > > than the English Wikipedia or its readers. > > > > But that's just me. > > > > Castelo > > > > > > Em 26/07/2011 16:16, whothis escreveu: > > > Looks like an excellent waste of effort. > > > > > > Maybe the problem of publishing non-publishable oral sources occurred > to > > > someone on the team. Anyway the english wikipedia seems to be the > > > appropriate place for your original research. I can't wait to read all > > about > > > it. > > > > > > I still think a research project in emesis in the global south or > > something > > > would have suited english wikipedia better but that's just me. > > > > > > Your fan > > > > > > Elizabeth > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Achal Prabhala<aprabh...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > >> Dear friends, > > >> > > >> At the beginning of 2011, a group of us began working on a project to > > >> explore alternative methods of citation on Wikipedia. We were > motivated > > >> by the lack of published resources in much of the non-Anglo-European > > >> world, and the very real difficulty of citing everyday aspects of > lived > > >> reality in India and South Africa. > > >> > > >> We are now at a stage where the project is almost complete, and we'd > > >> like to share our work with the broader movement, especially within > > >> India and South Africa. > > >> > > >> There are three languages we worked within: Malayalam, Hindi and > Sepedi. > > >> > > >> The project page documents the process and logistics employed, as well > > >> as the findings and results: > > >> > > >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Oral_Citations > > >> > > >> A film made on the project is available here: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:People-are-Knowledge.ogv?withJS=MediaWiki:MwEmbed.js > > >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:People-are-Knowledge.ogv > > >> or > > >> http://vimeo.com/26469276 > > >> > > >> There have been discussions on oral citations for some time now within > > >> the language communities we worked with for the duration of the > project. > > >> At this stage, we are really interested in *your* feedback, either on > > >> this list, or on the Discussion section of the project page. > > >> > > >> There are still some things to come, namely: > > >> > > >> - Updates on events, meetings and discussions held around the project > > >> (as they happen) > > >> - Updates on articles created in Malayalam, Hindi and Sepedi as a > result > > >> of the project (as they happen) > > >> - English transcripts of the interviews and a full English subtitle > > track > > >> for further translation (we could use some help here). > > >> > > >> We would be very grateful to hear your feedback, and begin a broader > > >> discussion. > > >> > > >> Best wishes, > > >> Achal > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> foundation-l mailing list > > >> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > >> Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-l mailing list > > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > > > > -- > GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for the Wikimedia > Foundation<http://www.glamwiki.org> > Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American > Art<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch> > and > Sarah Stierch Consulting > *Historical, cultural & artistic research & advising.* > ------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.sarahstierch.com/ > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- Oops, my karma ran over your dogma. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l