Andrew was clearly referring to me, lets leave him out of this please. -Dan On Apr 4, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote:
> After a cool off period of about 48 hours and considerable > reflection, it is my conviction that the posts of two above mentioned > editors should be moderated from now on. > > Andrew Garrett wrote, Sun Apr 3 10:13:26 UTC 2011, "Your messages are > deliberately obnoxious, unpleasant, and off-topic to boot." it is > unclear what messages he is referring to, but these are not > acceptable terms to classify anybody's messages, unless it is > acceptable that others classify Andrew Garrett's or anybody else's > messages as "deliberately obnoxious, unpleasant, and off-topic to > boot." and therefore asks him or them to "Cut it out, please." "What > is good for the goose is good for the gander." > > After engaging in a "friendly and polite exchange" with Dan > Rosenthal, he saw fit to send me an e-mail, Sun, 3 Apr 2011 05:26, > concerning "[Foundation-l] Wiki-revolution," using language > unbecoming to a gentleman, that I'll not repeat. This kind of > behavior cannot and should not be tolerated from members of this > list. Should everybody start sending unspeakable messages to other > members of the list? I do have experience of exchanging off list > messages with other members, but those were used for clarification, > to reach a mutual understanding and establish new bridges and avenues > of communication. They were used to improve relations with other > members and, as a result, improve the peaceful and cordial exchanges > that should take place on this list, despite any disagreements and > differences of opinion. There can never be any disagreements or > differences of opinion as far as the level of education and manners > used on this list, and towards members of this list both on and off > list. This is no army barracks, farm stables, or brawl among > drunkards on the town fairgrounds. > > As Dan Rosenthal might wish to present evidence that no harm was > intended or done, by making public his message, I authorize that he > so does. I have no trouble in reproducing Dan Rosenthal's message on > this list, provided he grants me, here, in public, on this list, > authorization to do it. > > I believe that Dan Rosenthal's action called for more severe > sanctions, but I have many reservations concerning all sorts of so > called severe sanctions on this list and Wikimedia projects in > general. We all know how easily they can be circunvented by the less > scrupulous. Therefore, as in the case of Andrew Garrett, my request > is that their posts to be moderated from now on. That should be > sufficient to prevent Dan Rosenthal from coughing again on this list > and hopefully at least make him hesitate before sending unworthy > messages off list. > > Sincerely, > > Virgilio A. P. Machado (Vapmachado) > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
