On 03/10/2010 07:01, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > Дана Saturday 02 October 2010 23:51:22 David Gerard написа: >> On 2 October 2010 22:44, David Gerard<dger...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> The problem is how to avoid making rules against stupidity. Because >>> you can't actually outlaw stupid. Experts already complain about >>> uncitability. I suppose we could advise experts on how to use citation >>> as a debating tactic. >> >> "Experts complain about uncitability" - they complain that common >> knowledge in the field doesn't actually make it into journal articles >> or textbooks, but is stuff that everyone knows. > > Perhaps what is needed then is a procedure for experts to cite such common > knowledge in the field. I don't have a good idea on how exactly to do that > however. >
The main problem is that citations are overwhelmingly needed in wikipedia precisely because there is no control over the content, and any old crap can get added: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Cr%C3%A9cy&diff=200330985&oldid=200327168 most of the above has been removed, but the first part remains "The French even went as far as to leave behind the pavises". They didn't 'leave them behind' the pavises were on the road from Abbeville along with the rest of the straggling French Army. later this bit of tosh got added: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Cr%C3%A9cy&diff=207979441&oldid=207735009 which eventually gets removed by: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Cr%C3%A9cy&diff=280708124&oldid=280707597 However, now the sense of what Philip wanted is reversed. So which is correct; was Philip in favour of attacking or not? Jonathan Sumption says in the first part of his three part History that the seasoned veterans wanted to wait, but that others wanted to attack. That Philip sided with the opinion to attack as he could not afford the humiliation, of having a powerful army in sight of an English army, for a third time, and not engaging in battle. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
