----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Snow" <[email protected]>
> The post I was responding to was nothing but an assessment of a > Citizendium article. It made no comparison, favorable or unfavorable, to > an equivalent article on Wikipedia. At most it engaged in some > speculation about what Wikipedia *might* have. It was explicitly contrasting how Wikipedia actually is, or tends to be like, as compared with the corresponding CZ article. I think the observations were accurate and reflect pretty well what controversial Wikipedia articles are like, namely festooned with supposedly reliable citations, and bearing obvious battlescars from years of edit-warring. The contrast was specifically prompted by a claim by Gerard that Wikipedia's relaxed attitude to 'expertise' leads to better articles. I don't think it does. > If your intent is to > discuss content issues in Wikipedia, then you need to actually > explicitly discuss them. I don't want to discuss content as such. I want to discuss generic and systematic problems with the way Wikipedia is organised that lead to poor quality articles. There needs first to be some recognition there is a quality problem and that it is serious - I think there is an element of denial that is evident from some of the replies here, as well as elsewhere. Once the problem is recognised, there needs to be a careful examination of possible causes for this. And then a further examination of how policy and governance could be changed to address some or all of these causes. Does that sound reasonable? > I might suggest that you should > familiarize yourself with some of our other mailing lists and consider > whether another list, like wikien-l, is better suited to have this > conversation, since foundation-l exists for issues related to the > Wikimedia Foundation and the overall movement surrounding its projects, > not just Wikipedia.) I consider this is the best mailing list for the purpose. What do people here think? Peter _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
