I don't think using an illustration of Bukake rather than a photo is a "failure of neutrality", but perhaps we'll have to agree to disagree on that. Regardless, as a global project, we need to seriously consider what steps we can take to accommodate cultures very different from our own, while still retaining the openness and comprehensiveness that make our project so successful as an educational resource and collaborative project. If that means we let some people filter what they see on Wikipedia, so be it. And if it means banning Goatse from the Main Page, I'm not going to complain. Obviously we must defend Wikipedia against real censorship threats (deleting religious imagery, whitewashing political scandals, DMCA abuses, etc.), but I don't see anything threatening about Mr. Harris evaluating the issues, or people discussing ideas for filtering technology. I think we're pretty far away from the edge of the "slippery slope", but if that changes, I'll be right there with you defending the integrity of the project.
Ryan Kaldari On 7/26/10 12:39 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 26 July 2010 20:08, Ryan Kaldari<rkald...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > failure > >> offer filtering. Frankly, we're already filtering content, even on >> en.wiki, but only according to a "default" Western/American POV. We use >> line drawings instead of photos in articles on sex positions. >> > > And this was a defective compromise with pushers of the censored POV > at the time, so using it as a reason for more is the begging the > question fallacy. > > Wikimedia's bias is to NPOV and the sum of the world's knowledge. > Deliberately restricting that by default is a violation, on the face > of it. Apart from using past failures as justification for future > failures, do you have a proposal to address the problem of prior > default filtering as a failure of neutrality in a manner that shows > understanding of why this is a problem? > > > - d. > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
